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Lithium Mar 3, 2010 10:08 AM

20? Last time it was 40 to 45. We have to stop this.

BlueDragon Mar 3, 2010 10:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ron97 (Post 455722)
20? Last time it was 40 to 45. We have to stop this.

Just ban him already... Is it that hard???

Sfaizst Mar 3, 2010 10:22 AM

I wasnt online the complete day (sleeping while the pc was running :D), I will ban him from my Server (The Server) too, when my hoster installed a new addon (with it its easy possible to block ips or complete countrys)

@Vegito: JJu is an outdated program written by me, but I still use it, but the most players think its illegal so when you want to have it legally download the update only and add your JJ2 versions manually

Crazy Rabbit Mar 4, 2010 03:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grytolle (Post 455697)
just ban russia


NOooo...Then i cant host servers...
Need other way...Not all russians are pigs...

Dermo Mar 4, 2010 09:14 PM

That statement made me want Russia banned even more, despite the fact that Grytolle's just being funny.

BlueDragon Mar 5, 2010 04:41 AM

Lol Dermo is evil :P

Vegito Mar 5, 2010 06:28 AM

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http://img693.imageshack.us/img693/7905/artem.png

A lot of spam imo :O

I've tried to warn him yet he wont listen, will just continue spamming and banned me instead.

BlueDragon Mar 5, 2010 07:54 AM

lol at ASD
Now its like an everyday tool :/


EDIT:
ok I joined his server and got banned and im sorry for what im going to say now:
BAN THAT NOOB ALREADY! I HAD IT WHIT HIM!

He spammed the server list so i couldnt even host. WHY does he NOT get banned?

Puffie40 Mar 5, 2010 10:07 AM

The serverlist was cleared of the spamservers, be he just goes and floods them again.

Just ban his IP prefix already!

Vegito Mar 5, 2010 04:22 PM

ASD is useful for IP checking :p. I had to ask around for it though since I forgot to back ASD up xd

Nimrod Mar 5, 2010 04:48 PM

This is amusing in a way.

When we (The List Server Team) had an IP Ban feature in use, we had the community screaming on about power abuse and how no one should be banned from the list server. Then now when one stupid russian abuses it, people demand he gets banned and then complain that its not done.

I mean come on people, make your mind up, you either want an Admin in control, or you want the list server network to remain open.

Part of me just wants to ban him, because its clear he is an idiot who just needs to get a life, but at the same time, I'd have the J2o/JJ2 'elites' shouting at me for power abusing and threatening to remove support for the list server.

So its a no-win situation for me, someones always going to complain. However if it continues we may have to call people togeather and get some framework on IP banning back online, and also I'd have to install the IP filter on Digiex again (I removed it after the whole Orbitz thing ended).

My only threat to this russian idiot is, you have had your fun, but if you keep pushing people they will push for your ban more, and it will just be an entire range ban on your ISP so there won't be a way around, so stop pushing your luck. Orbitz did this a few years ago, and he was easily stopped, so it can be done.

BlueDragon Mar 5, 2010 05:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nimrod (Post 455783)
This is amusing in a way.

When we (The List Server Team) had an IP Ban feature in use, we had the community screaming on about power abuse and how no one should be banned from the list server. Then now when one stupid russian abuses it, people demand he gets banned and then complain that its not done.

I mean come on people, make your mind up, you either want an Admin in control, or you want the list server network to remain open.

Part of me just wants to ban him, because its clear he is an idiot who just needs to get a life, but at the same time, I'd have the J2o/JJ2 'elites' shouting at me for power abusing and threatening to remove support for the list server.

So its a no-win situation for me, someones always going to complain. However if it continues we may have to call people togeather and get some framework on IP banning back online, and also I'd have to install the IP filter on Digiex again (I removed it after the whole Orbitz thing ended).

My only threat to this russian idiot is, you have had your fun, but if you keep pushing people they will push for your ban more, and it will just be an entire range ban on your ISP so there won't be a way around, so stop pushing your luck. Orbitz did this a few years ago, and he was easily stopped, so it can be done.

I don't really care if your in control.As long as the server list team is not a team of power abusers. But whit you as admin i dont think there is any problem.
Just dont ban every person you see :P
I would not ban if the name of the server is like wikipedia.com and its not pining.
Well why cant you name your server the way your website is? Unless you spam it like Artem does....

Just ban this (insert a 1000000000 swear words here).

Dermo Mar 5, 2010 06:09 PM

I would prefer that list server admin involvement is left out. It clearly is too easy to get out of hand, especially when you ban people such as me for one or five server crashes. Clearly, people are educated now on how to protect their servers. I am more in favor of a filter or something to prevent more than 3 listing or such on the same IP.

Lithium Mar 6, 2010 01:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by klemenkin (Post 455784)
I don't really care if your in control.As long as the server list team is not a team of power abusers. But whit you as admin i dont think there is any problem.
Just dont ban every person you see :P
I would not ban if the name of the server is like wikipedia.com and its not pining.
Well why cant you name your server the way your website is? Unless you spam it like Artem does....

Just ban this (insert a 1000000000 swear words here).


Agreed. If you (Nimrod) are the only one who could do it,that's alright. Now go ban the noob.

People,make your mind...like he would ban your servers. (Unless you spam them.)

Grytolle Mar 6, 2010 02:04 AM

Nimrod: most people who've posted in this thread weren't even around back then :p

snzspeed Mar 6, 2010 02:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dermo (Post 455787)
I would prefer that list server admin involvement is left out. It clearly is too easy to get out of hand, especially when you ban people such as me for one or five server crashes. Clearly, people are educated now on how to protect their servers. I am more in favor of a filter or something to prevent more than 3 listing or such on the same IP.

i dont think there is protection on how he can spam your server with clones.. list server flooding isnt the only annoying thing what he does.

FawFul Mar 6, 2010 03:51 AM

it's a hard punishment though, never able to play jj2 online anymore on his range. People, please be sure and think what you are doing. Maybe there are people online who like him (not that i can imagine). Let's not come to conclusion too fast, unless he will be rude and thinks nothing would happen if we say we ban him.

In other words: That he doesn't give a (-)(-)(-)(-) about other peoples feelings about this issue, and isn't afraid of being banned.

if that's true and he is really an (-)(-)(-)(-)(-)(-)(-), you have my permission to ban him :P.

Stijn Mar 6, 2010 03:54 AM

The way I see it, he's abusing a service provided by Nimrod, so it's perfectly fine for Nimrod to take away his privilege (since that's what it is) to use it. If the only way to do that is by a complete IP ban, so be it. I can see where the reservations to such actions come from, and I suppose they could be addressed by coming up with some sort of formal process of reaching a verdict about banning or not, but I don't think the whole list server enterprise is big enough to warrant such an institution.

I don't know whether it's possible, but some sort of server spam prevention (like max 3 servers per IP or something) would be nice to avoid such problems in the future, perhaps?

Vegito Mar 6, 2010 04:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stijn (Post 455805)
I don't know whether it's possible, but some sort of server spam prevention (like max 3 servers per IP or something) would be nice to avoid such problems in the future, perhaps?

Yeah, I was thinking of that too.
Ban until such system has been invented :+

Well, a ban would stop most of the problems. Him joining a server can be prevented by simply blocking his IP firewall wise. Not only that, there's gonna be a jj2+ update that should stop most of the problems he exploited.

I'm still in favour of some kind of protection though. Max 3 servers per IP or otherwise...

FawFul Mar 6, 2010 04:47 AM

If you guys say so, then go ahead. To be honest, i didn't really catch up all the information lately from what he did. But some people here really release there anger here.

Nimrod Mar 6, 2010 06:08 AM

I tend to be more in favour of Stijn idea with regards to blocking the number of games hosted per IP, perhaps even as low as one or two, then special things like the Zeal Server can be let off that requirement (as it serves a purpose).

However, that will require either a network wrapper around the Epic List Server that monitors connections to the listing port, and only allows one or two concurrent per IP. Or for BlurredD or another programmer from the community working on attaching the feature to the Epic's List server tool. Either of those are good, but are time consuming. I couldn't work on them myself until University finishes (in a couple of months) however I would have nothing against another community members involvement in getting that done (and I'm sure the community would be thankful to that person).

With Stijn's idea, the list server can remain open to all, and that would be my preferable method of operation. Like he commented, its too small to have long winded processes to work on banning people and to be honest, the problem of abuse only seems to come along once every few years, the rest of the time the community respects the list server network and it gets good productive use.

Puffie40 Mar 6, 2010 11:06 AM

I would say do what you have to in the meantime to stop this (Banning the range) then work on a better solution (Server filter)

Crazy Rabbit Mar 6, 2010 09:50 PM

Maybe find defend Programm from hacks...
And make him to make only one Server?
But i think make this prog is too hard...

Then we need other way...

Puffie40 Mar 7, 2010 12:37 PM

Quote:

Maybe find defend Programm from hacks...
Plus already does a decent job of this... It kicks/bans the offender if a crash attempt is detected.

Quote:

And make him to make only one Server? But i think make this prog is too hard...
You would be surprised at what network administrators can do in regards to managing networks. Nimrod already mentioned what he would have to do to impose a server limit.

zepect Mar 8, 2010 12:22 PM

С 8 Марта вас всех! :)
Happy 8th of March! :)

Crazy Rabbit Mar 8, 2010 06:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Artem (Post 455865)
С 8 Марта вас всех! :)
Happy 8th of March! :)

lol, аккуратнее, тебя тут разыскивают! ;)

zepect Mar 9, 2010 03:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crazy Rabbit (Post 455868)
lol, аккуратнее, тебя тут разыскивают! ;)

лол я вижу ты тоже меня разыскиваешь :D

BlueDragon Mar 9, 2010 04:10 AM

עברית xP

Artem what are you doing here?

Stijn Mar 9, 2010 04:19 AM

English or die, all

zepect Mar 9, 2010 05:05 AM

(-)(-)(-)(-) YOU ALL :DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

KiMO Mar 9, 2010 05:17 AM

XD
 
Did anyone notice that Artem said that William asked him to do it? Even if it doesn't justify the deed, it should be commented. I'm not with him or something, but stop being so rude and take only Shelly's part.

BlueDragon Mar 9, 2010 01:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stijn (Post 455875)
English or die, all

lol :P

Thanks for banning him Stijn.

@KiMO i think he was just making it up...

Puffie40 Mar 9, 2010 03:45 PM

Quote:

Did anyone notice that Artem said that William asked him to do it?
No (unless it was in that deleted post) but it seems to be a fairly common tactic of caught script kiddies to pull the "I was forced to / I didn't mastermind it" card.

while it's possible that may be the truth, it's no excuse for doing it in the first place. He made his bed, so to speak...

Crazy Rabbit Mar 9, 2010 03:55 PM

Stop panic and just say, anyone uses iP BeeThink Blocker?
If yes, then ill download it too! ;)

Dermo Mar 9, 2010 08:12 PM

Peer Guardian Lite is the best method.

Lithium Mar 10, 2010 10:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KiMO (Post 455878)
Did anyone notice that Artem said that William asked him to do it? Even if it doesn't justify the deed, it should be commented. I'm not with him or something, but stop being so rude and take only Shelly's part.

Do WHAT? Why would I ask him to spam the servers?

Sfaizst Mar 10, 2010 10:55 AM

Beethink is based on the old/outdated Peer Guardian engine

DanZeal Mar 10, 2010 11:34 AM

Or you can use peerblock.

KiMO Mar 11, 2010 02:43 AM

So I was tricked. Shame on me. :eek:

Shelly Apr 2, 2010 10:25 PM

OHAI!
I was away for like.. a month Did that (-)(-)(-)(-)(-)(-)(-) get banned? :D


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