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Admael Apr 17, 2001 01:55 PM

Rocky!? Hey. :-D



Really, I have problems *seeing* pepper spray. My eyes aren't exactly great, and it's a really strain on my eyes to see those tiny grey bullets. It kind of makes it completely useless to me.



-Ad

Wild Angel Apr 17, 2001 03:42 PM

Ice and Pepper Spray.

CannibalBob Apr 18, 2001 08:42 AM

Yes, Admael is right. Pepper Spray is hard to see, and when you have a bunch rapid fire powerups, all you see is smoke! [img]http://jazz2.nagcentral.com/forum/images/smiles/icon_wink.gif[/img]



Anyway, another downer is that Pepper Spray cannot be collected in crates, and I don't think they can be obtained in Weapon steel barrels either. I could be wrong about the barrels, but... yeah.



Pepper Spray is an OK gun, but it is basically similar to the Blaster, except smaller, shorter range, slower and shoots two. Ice, on the other hand, could freeze someone longer so you can at LEAST butt stomp 'em. TNT hardly hurts anyone.

n0 Apr 18, 2001 09:26 AM

I'd say TNT is the worst, but Epic could have made it the bomb! (pun intended)

CelL Aug 26, 2001 07:05 AM

Quote:


On 2001-04-13 00:15, SteelTalon wrote:

I beg to differ. I believe the Seeker is the most useless weapon in the game.(add to that it's the slowest gun in the game). =P

Nope, the TNT is the slowest, it does`nt move at all [img]http://jazz2.nagcentral.com/forum/images/smiles/icon_lol.gif[/img].Btw, seekers can go pretty fast (not very fast, but not as slow as normal) if fired while runing :-P.

$tilettø Aug 26, 2001 07:09 AM

I just luv RF powerup and Seekers can go Fast if you run and Shoot

MaGoo Aug 26, 2001 07:45 AM

Worst guns from 1 to 10, 1 being the worst and 10 being the best.



1)Ice

2)TNT

3)Pepperspray

4)Blaster Gun

5)Toaster Gun

6)Gun9 (The one that goes through walls although can be useful)

7)RF Gun

8)Bouncies

9)Seekers

10) Uhh.....



F!re Aug 26, 2001 08:32 AM

every one says that pepperspray sucks but it doesnt its shoots fast weird and is quite handy in water



you also say ice is bad but like in my level flaming flags you need to freeze the springs before getting in the base. also if youre frozen you cant move so thats kinda handy to



tnt can be useful too ,like you can blast away a whole wall with one shot.

also frozen tnt hurts you it works like a mine.



I dont think there really is a worst weapon there just some weapons which are less good than others

EvilMike Aug 26, 2001 10:20 AM

Pepper spray really isn't all bad. If you actually know how to play, you would know that it is the fastest gun, and has the longest range. Of course, to get it to go fast and far you must be running before you fire. The fact that the pepper spray is a little brown dot can also be used to your advantage. Have you ever considered the fact that it is hard for your enimy to see as well as you? Some good players are able to dodge shots by jumping over them. The pepper sprays bad visibility combined with the great speed make the weapon very hard to dodge. This weapon also works with fastfires, which it good.



I know that the pepper spray gun only does one damage, but in a level with no or few powerups I would use it.





The worst gun is TNT. It does nothing.

Kaz Aug 26, 2001 01:34 PM

Actually, TNT will do you some good if you're being chased, if you use the right timing (sometimes in race) you can knock the enemy back...



Not to mention it makes those swartugaruds run super fast if you plant it right...





And yes, Pepper spray is very long range, and handy in shooting in angles for stupid campers... not to mention it does that cool 180 complete arc thing, it's too bad they put a 50 limit on it though becuase I would rather use it than a blaster..



Not to mention, it lasts longer than most other weapons so if you can use your speed right, you can make a pepper residue that'll hurt the enemy while he's chasing you, so it's only useless in the hands of a newbie.

Rýû Aug 26, 2001 02:47 PM

TNT sux

but it can cause damage SOMETIMES

TNT is the WORST gun there is, The worst gun there was and the worst gun that will ever BE

Nexidos Aug 27, 2001 02:42 PM

in single player the two best are the flamethrower and blaster...



multiplayer I like bouncies



least favorite is definentally TNT...assuming that doesn't count then buttstomp :P

Hareoic Aug 28, 2001 01:13 PM

TNT is an EXTREMELY useful item when you need to bust blocks of ANY sort, weapon, stomp, or whatever, it CANNOT be beat.



I kinda hate seekers too. They really are kinda cheap. It really kinda defeats the purpose of aiming your shots.



ALL YOUR SEEKERS ARE BELONG TO NOBODY ALL AT!!!

Sr Jp Cb At Aug 28, 2001 05:57 PM

In my oppinion NO weopon is better than any other weopon. Each is extremly useful in the right situation even though some situations pop up more often than others.Here are some of my favorite ways to use each weopon.



Blaster: Its hard to dodge with lots of Fast Fires and it becomes more lethal with power up.When you jump continusly the stream of bullets becomes hard to dodge. usefull in wide open lvls like diamondus warzone(unfortunatly there isn't any fast fire or the blaster power up there)and in tunnels.



Bouncer:Very hard to avoid in small spaces as it bounces off the walls and around the area alot.It shoots upardly very far wich can hurt opponents who arent even on screen yet. Also good in tunels.



Ice: Hundreds of uses if you think about it.

(Still needs to be tested)Sometimes when theres one ammo left of ice it fires it AND the next weopon SIMULTAINIOUSLY! that can hurt people lots. Also if your a good shot you can freeze oponents in the middle of blasting them with other weopons(seekers work well here).This too is useful in tunnels.



Seekers:People use this so much and you ppl probably know most of its uses so ill just contribute this its EXTREMLY good in corners and other confined spaces or in dark lvls.



RF Misseles:Hard to aviod when shot excessively.... Hard to avoid period. there Really fast (thus the name) and become faster when your running. the fact that it shoots 2 or 3 at a time can devestate wide areas and can many people at once.not useful in tunnels cause of the recoil.



Toaster:the more fast fire you have the farther it shoots.its hard to predict the way it shoots because...err i cant really describe it but im sure you all know anyway. also it burns ammo slowly (pun not intended) so you can shoot with it for a while.



TNT:Great for blasting through walls and spreading around ammo. can destroy things in a 4x4 tile area around it and ,if used correct, can knock opponents back away from chasing you. explodes when shot.



Pepper spray:as it has been pointed out alot its more or less hard to see. it shoots out 2 at a time and can shoot diagonally which can devestate different playing styles. so what if it only deals one dammage, you can combine it with others if you wish which can hurt alot.



ElectroBlaster:Shoots through walls. Shoots farther when running. extremly useful in many situations such as blasting people in the carrot area in Diamondus Warzone. or getting the seeker power up in Chemical warfare.



Now theres a bunch of stratedgys and great uses for each weopon Proving of coarse that cows are cool! Errr i mean all of them are good in the right situation. So Nya! =P

Kaz Aug 29, 2001 01:40 PM

Yes... there is a certain way ice can be used to kill a person multiple times...

EvilMike Aug 29, 2001 03:38 PM

Lol. Don't let people know about it :P



That's the one reason I don't use ice in my levels.

JanusJackrabbit Aug 29, 2001 10:46 PM

Would you guys consider it cheating if I knew how to use rapid fire without getting any pickups?

$tilettø Aug 30, 2001 01:12 AM

No

Fear Aug 30, 2001 08:29 AM

yes



Best weapon is blaster, in all situations exept firering around corners and over walls.



Tunnels you all mention... Tunnels are no standard area, tunnels can have lots of things including all sorts of gaps, tricks and corners, they can be small and large, so please, do not mention 'tunnels.'

Nexidos Aug 30, 2001 12:35 PM

I forgot rapid fire existed. It's worthless. Simply repeatedly hit the spacebar key.

VeggieMan Aug 30, 2001 01:21 PM

Your mom is the wrost gun to use..



VeggieMan

Violet CLM Aug 30, 2001 01:32 PM

You're talking about the close together floor and ceilling springs, Janus?



Seekers can be used to kill people multiple times too. I think most any weapon can.

JanusJackrabbit Aug 31, 2001 11:43 AM

No. I found out how to use rapid fire without getting pickups.

roseta Aug 31, 2001 12:17 PM

The jj2 bouncer.

The jj1 launcher is better.

$tilettø Aug 31, 2001 12:47 PM

Quote:


On 4:32pm 8-30-2001, Unknown Rabbit wrote:

You're talking about the close together floor and ceilling springs, Janus?



Seekers can be used to kill people multiple times too. I think most any weapon can.

u mean Shooting Them Up?

lolz i do that all the Time in Battle1 and Other lvlz :P

Enigma Sep 1, 2001 02:27 AM

Ice gun: worthless, you can blast yourself right out of the ice.

TNT: worthless if you try to hit someone with it. only if you're really lucky and the opponent doesn't sprint through it, it'll do damage. The good thing about TNT though is that it will blow up every kind of weapon block, and even stomp scenery. But you hardly ever see those in battle levels. conclusion: TNT=useless in battle

Hareoic Sep 1, 2001 09:02 AM

Well, at LEAST both are good for slowing opponents down.



The worst weapon?



Here's the most hated anyway:



Shields.

defalcon Sep 1, 2001 09:22 PM

Pepper spray is useful. You storm tunnels with it. [img]http://jazz2.nagcentral.com/forum/images/smiles/icon_wink.gif[/img] Pity they didn't keep it as what it was in the OEM. Same as the electroblaster, cos the blade gun looks cool.

Kaz Sep 2, 2001 08:49 AM

I'd try something to my jazz 2 data file and jazz 2 program and then search for it but I'd like pay.



Veggieman: My mom is a better gun to use than your blaster.

Fear Sep 3, 2001 09:14 AM

Pepper spray is also masterful in water.

Wazz Wackrabbit Sep 4, 2001 05:49 AM

Hmm...



Blaster

Simple. Collect fastfires (shoot 'em from enemys or find 'em). And push Shoot.

Frostbiter

Useless.. But not fully. You can freeze platform and QUICKLY jump on it b4 it unfreezes.

Bounce Bullets

Shot out quick, they make clouds.

But they're hard to aim up.

You've gotta be near to enemy to shoot it.

Seekers

Useful to shoot things hard to aim.

But Battle with them (and Shield) is unfair.

TBN...

roseta Sep 4, 2001 11:53 AM

TNT is my best weapon.

Personally, the bouncer is the worst

Twi$ted-Black Sep 5, 2001 04:47 PM

TNT is pretty useful in the Tubelectric solo levels for tricking those electrofuzz guys into nuking themselves.



The best weapon is probably the homing missles...the most useless in solo is electroblaster. I never used it once because you just don't need it, with the enemies so weak and stupid. I did use it on Devan, but that's just because I practically had full ammo left.



Jazz 1 solo is too easy. The only level that even began to challenge me was A Diamondus Forever on hard mode (bees)

Coppertop Sep 5, 2001 06:22 PM

Ice works on the robot boss. . . it's funny when he kind of just FREEZES (lol)



Pepper spray definately. Quite useless. And the only thing bouncers do is give you points when you pick them up.

Kaz Sep 6, 2001 02:04 PM

If blaster weren't unlimited, it would be useless.

Ramborabbit Sep 13, 2001 05:08 PM

Acually, TNT is pretty good if you use it properly. For instance, I use a TNT "Arch" method to trap opponents. Simply jump over them in an aarch and rapidly press the fire button. The TNT will trap your opponent and result in them being hurt.



Toaster is the best gun when powered up because if you run and shoot, it goes very far and deals good damage.

Louis K Feb 27, 2014 07:22 AM

PEPPER SPRAY!!!!
It is contempt for the spice!!
I've never seen such like this horrible fucking shit!
What are they thinking?!?! Is it really weapon?

Treylina Feb 27, 2014 09:28 AM

Holy god of necro...You just bumped a 13 year old thread.

Anyway, I consider freezer the worst. It's too niche (its uses being freezing springs and using over death pits, the robot bug on freeze was stupid and I'm glad it got fixed), it's mostly just a glorified blaster. Not to say I hate the weapon, I like utilising it in levels. I just wished it behaved more differently than blaster and wouldn't let players to break out of it themselves.

TNT is buggy (I think?), though it can be useful for playing defensively. It's nearly just about as niche as freezer, though.

Pepper is also niche, too bad the powered version doesn't give more damage by default.


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