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Risp_old Jan 19, 2004 06:24 AM

'Wheee'?

And I proclaim this is my page!

Shiverz CC Jan 19, 2004 07:37 AM

Maybe someone could design a 3D fangame of JJ2 like the Sonic Robo Blast 2 one which uses a doom engine www.srb2.org. Unfortunetly I cant do this because the stuff on the site doesnt work on XP for me

Hare Jan 21, 2004 02:28 AM

Say, thats a nice fan game. Its got it's inadequecies, but it is nice. If only it was more perfected. :)

It kind of bugs me that no company made this kind of thing. I mean, it is using a modified version of the Doom engine. But no, they've got to only make first person shooters, don't they.

Sun Fun Dude Jan 21, 2004 06:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shiverz CC
Maybe someone could design a 3D fangame of JJ2 like the Sonic Robo Blast 2 one which uses a doom engine www.srb2.org. Unfortunetly I cant do this because the stuff on the site doesnt work on XP for me

You know Hare was doing this with some 3D program (more advanced than the doom engine) however he decided to not make a 3D Jazz fangame with fear of being sued. Instead he's making it with his own characters but says he'll give it a Jazz feel. i'm sure it will be cool!

DoubleGJ Jan 22, 2004 03:10 AM

Yea, with a skunk.

Shiverz CC Jan 22, 2004 08:05 AM

Well couldn't you design a 3d fangame based on JJ1 as that is even older

Sun Fun Dude Jan 22, 2004 04:56 PM

It would still be using the same JJ characters so it wouldn't change any copy right infingments.

Trafton Jan 22, 2004 05:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shiverz CC
Well couldn't you design a 3d fangame based on JJ1 as that is even older

The minimum time it takes for a software copyright to expire is 75 years or so.

~ Traft

Shiverz CC Jan 23, 2004 08:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trafton
The minimum time it takes for a software copyright to expire is 75 years or so.

~ Traft

... long

Odin Jan 23, 2004 09:08 PM

Shall I PM you when 75 years have passed?

-Waits quietly-

-RoW

Hare Jan 24, 2004 07:04 PM

Oh yeah, I still have those old screen shots up at my MSN site.

http://groups.msn.com/purrhead/screenshots.msnw?Page=2

Feel free to look around. Interesting stuff. I'm not sure how long it will be until I get the whole gear rolling with Jazzer X. Mabye I should get a little more work done on it tonight. I've been quite disorganized in the past, but I'm working on getting more "on the ball" with things.

I'll give the notes that I made about the production process of JX a read-through, then work on writing up some more on my plans on how to go about the production of the game. I haven't forgotten the project though. Actually I hardly go a day without thinking about concepts for it. Just I haven't done much as far as putting those thoughts into action.

I currently don't own a copy of the Professional Edition of GameStudio, so that means that multiplayer and a distributable map editor (among other things) just won't be available until I can get a copy. I plan on entering the Acknex Challenge, though, where I can win a Pro Edition upgrade. All I've got to do is make a game with my current software that kicks the butt of the competing game creators' games. There's a few restrictions like file size, and sometimes there's a certain theme the game has to have or something, but I think I can win this.

I mean, check this out...

http://www.conitec.net/contest.htm

You see that one contest where that fighting game, "Battle Dust: The Championship" won 3rd place... The game was a crappy fighting game, you can check it out in the download sections of the site, if it is still there. *chuckles* So I'm hoping that perhaps this gives me a chance to simply pull out all the stops for a sure fire winner.... at least, I'm hoping, anyways. And not to say that "pulling out all the stops" is easy, because I do intend to put in a lot of hard work.

The entry is due by spring of 2004.... I hope I can have something by then. Maybe just send an early version of JX as the entry *chuckles* makes sense.

Sun Fun Dude Jan 24, 2004 09:37 PM

I hope you do well in the contest Hare. Good luck :)

Hare Jan 25, 2004 07:34 AM

Thanks! *goes to work on his design docs* ^_^

XAYo HR Jan 26, 2004 08:13 AM

Or JJ2 cards how Yu-Gi-Oh hmm.... Dark Jazz #2 or Lasershield effect One monster increases its atk or def by 500 points :p

or the jj2 Tv Show



Jazz: You can't win er... Devan.
Devan: Muahhahaahahahahanha i have the ultimate POWERED LAZERSHIELD muahhahahahaahhaahaa you suck Jazzzzzzzz muhahahaha

Flamepanther Jan 26, 2004 02:27 PM

If two of the Sonic cartoons can be as good as they were (or are, in the case of Snic X), there's nothing to keep a Jazz show from working. Other games have done well in animated form as well. In particular, the new series based on Gungrave is wonderful.

As for the chance that the show will be "kiddy"... on some level, you are probably right. But then, it would be labeled that way no matter what. The majority of the TV viewing and game-playing public is going to automatically assume "kiddy" as soon as they see brightly colored fuzzy animals as the main characters. That's including any future Jazz game too, not just a cartoon. We'll just have to rely on a younger audience as the "fuel" for the fandom, and the "mature" gamers who are actually mature enough not to be afraid of cute animals will come along too. That was basically the idea in Jazz 2, or the game wouldn't have been so easy.

DoubleGJ Jan 30, 2004 05:21 AM

As I look on the Jazz3 screenshots, I see that it would be much more kiddy than Jazz2. Fortunately, Jazz on GBA wasn't such a sweetie.

Blade Nightflame Feb 26, 2004 03:07 PM

Well, i don't know if ANYONE imagines having Jazz's voice actor using Mario's voice (From Super Mario Bros 3. The cartoon). In a Jazz 2 cartoon.

I wonder what the idea of a Jazz Anime would be like...

DoubleGJ Feb 27, 2004 02:20 AM

Jazz can't be in anime since he's american-comic-styled.

Ninja Dodo Feb 27, 2004 10:07 AM

There is a way to get around legal issues. Apparently Epic has said that they would have no problems with a Jazz mod for UT2004.

http://forums.beyondunreal.com/showthread.php?t=126765

Flamepanther Feb 29, 2004 03:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JSZ Jazz
Jazz can't be in anime since he's american-comic-styled.

That, uh, doesn't make any sense. "Anime" isn't limited to only one style, and American characters have been done in what most Americans would consider an "anime style" many times. For instance, there is a series of Batman manga that was released in Japan. Also the cast of Capcom's Marvel Comics fighting games (X-Men: Children of the Atom, Marvel Super Heroes, Marvel vs Capcom, Marvel vs Capcom 2) are done in a very "anime" style and it worked just fine. Looked great, in fact. On the other side of the coin, some very "anime style" things like Voltron and Battle of the Planets have been given relatively successful American comics, drawn in a relatively "American" style.

When we've alredy seen Jazz drawn in several different styles within the games alone, it doesn't make any sense to say he can't be done a certain way becuase he's a certain style of character. No sense at all.

Shiverz CC Mar 1, 2004 07:51 AM

Why dont you post Jazzer X in the Community Game Development forum ?

Hare Mar 4, 2004 12:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shiverz CC
Why dont you post Jazzer X in the Community Game Development forum ?

Hmm, thats a good idea. I bet it would be a good way to kick-start the process of development, and get the ball rolling.

ManiK Mar 18, 2004 05:40 PM

If (hopefully when) a new Jazz game comes out, It should be in the style of Jak 2, as in that it's not Cutesy, but more mature so that it caters to long time Jazz fans.

Violet CLM Mar 18, 2004 05:41 PM

Jak? I'm not sure I've heard of that game. Screenshots?

ManiK Mar 19, 2004 06:44 AM

Youve never heard of jak and daxter for PS2? Jak 2 is the sequel and it's much darker and more mature
[IMG]http://www.armchairempire.com/images/previews/ps2/jak-ii/jak-ii-4.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://www.armchairempire.com/images/previews/ps2/jak-ii/jak-ii-2.jpg[/IMG]

These arent the greatest screenshots but it's hard to find good ones.

MoonBlazE Mar 19, 2004 07:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trafton
The minimum time it takes for a software copyright to expire is 75 years or so.

~ Traft

So we'll just keep the community alive in 75 years, just so Trafton can feel better over the game. Nobody will mind a fangame as long the character credit is given to their respective creators. = p

Hare Mar 24, 2004 09:12 AM

hmm, is a Jazz fangame against epic's copyright if it is an Unreal Tournament 2004 mod?

Something to think about perhaps.

Stijn Apr 1, 2004 06:18 AM

How about SENDING THEM AN E-MAIL!
I mean, supposed they would answer it, that would clear up a lot of things.

KRSplat Apr 1, 2004 01:08 PM

But then they if they said no they would be suspicious...

(j/k.)

NinJazz Apr 15, 2004 03:44 AM

You are right!
 
I don't think Shareware is going to do a new Jazz, so why we can't do it?
We have no copyright is no a real matter but still we can't do it!
I don't understand why?????? If we would do it why not?
"People always ask why, never why not" that's the key!

Lem_Gambino Apr 15, 2004 11:54 AM

*has an EXCELLENT idea*

Jazz Jackrabbit + Insomniac Games X Ratchet and Clank = JAZZ 3!

Think about it. Ratchet and Clank has pretty much all of the same stuff Jazz 2 has: awesome controls, graphics, loveable characters, massive levels, and addictive "blast enemies into a million pieces" gameplay.

A while back someone said something about Jazz 3 being an RPG. Ratchet and Clank: Going Commando has RPG-like gameplay: you can upgrade your health and weapons by squashing lots of enemies. And you'd have to travel around and do stuff to progress the plot until the final battle.

Doesn't that sound like fun?

DoubleGJ Apr 16, 2004 12:44 AM

Yeah, I found R&C quite similar to Jazz games. But I don't want any RPGs. Jazz is too much up for shooting to think.

Violet CLM Apr 16, 2004 12:58 AM

What can you tell me about Shell? ~Jazz
 
Doesn't anyone remember the comic in the JJ1 manual? Jazz was all for getting information and stuff. The whole thing felt kind of like an RPG.

DoubleGJ Apr 16, 2004 06:21 AM

The Polish JJ publisher suxorz. We even have a different sucky CD cover (see Haze's Hideout), so don't even think about getting those comics here.

Lem_Gambino Apr 16, 2004 06:36 AM

I wasn't talking about a TURN-BASED RPG-type game! I was thinking more along the lines of Zelda/Metroid...with all of the R&C flavors, of course. :)

DoubleGJ Apr 16, 2004 09:29 AM

Yea, it would be fun to collect new abilities while playing like in Metroid Fusion.

piet May 6, 2004 01:29 AM

i will just drop this link and you can see what you do with it:

http://www.eckhart.da.ru/razz/

Blaze The Movie Fan Apr 22, 2005 03:07 PM

You're right

Toys 'R'N'T' us is gonna sell it

In other words: No

LittleFreak Apr 22, 2005 11:20 PM

Thank you for reviving an old topic for no apparent reason.

DarkJazz23 Apr 23, 2005 12:05 AM

You COULD always buy Jazz Jackrabbit's rights!


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