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Risp_old Jan 2, 2004 07:34 PM

Sad...

edit- Guess which page is mine? This one!

Hare Jan 3, 2004 01:45 AM

... wow. o.o

Man Faw, thats beautiful. You really put your heart into this, didn't you?

Fawriel Jan 3, 2004 01:01 PM

Aye, I did. ^^ Thanks.

And Infinite or Strato or whatever, what's the problem with that comment?
What was that guy supposed to have criticized? "OMG I DUN LIKE BLOO PIC SUX ;((((("?

Risp_old Jan 3, 2004 02:08 PM

The problem is that that comment does not say whatsoever how to improve or change or even if there is anything wrong. And it is so obtuse even if it did do some good critisism it would be hard to tell.

Fawriel Jan 3, 2004 02:25 PM

GOD!
That was ART!
There was NOTHING ONE COULD DARN IMPROVE!
There was a MEANING behind it! *stomps on something random*

Risp_old Jan 3, 2004 02:30 PM

... so every work of art is 'perfect'? There is no way an artist can get better? I have done drawing before and my drawings are better than they were, say, 3 years ago. But how can that be, if every artist is 'perfect'? Am I not an artist, then?

Fawriel Jan 3, 2004 02:35 PM

*grumble*
What was that guy supposed to have changed? The size of the bird's head?
The drawing was AbSTRACT. There was no anatomy, there was NOTHING there are guidelines for! You can't criticize something like that, you can only judge its effect.
The only thing you could perhaps change is the colors, but that is only if you understand the meaning, and if the colors HAVE a meaning.

Risp_old Jan 3, 2004 02:44 PM

Oh sorry. I thought you were talking about art in general.

Maby you should go into abstract art. It is easy to say- that isn't bad porportions, thats abstract art!

Fawriel Jan 3, 2004 02:53 PM

Are you implying that my characters' proportions are unrealistic? =P

Strato Jan 3, 2004 04:16 PM

There was nothing wrong with the comment. I was trying to make a point that not all DA comments are OMG I LURVE to Rad. Sorry for defending.

Fawriel Jan 4, 2004 10:18 AM

Alright then, sorry for the misunderstanding.

MoonBlazE Jan 5, 2004 07:35 AM

I couldn't agree more with CaptainSpam. Besides this board will not supply you with hearts as critism, we're grown, mature enough to say our opinion straight ahead. (Unlike the majority of the DeviantArt community) I specially felt that you was simply plain asking us for praise you by such a request, dude you're not 'special' because you can draw well. I wouldn't have bothered to reply if you didn't directly ask for no critism in such a manner.

Back to topic. There's a few flaws in the angel character. Her right hand's position looks really odd and could need some work. (Try visit Noogy's site for some hints) Her shading is really nice, with the exception of the hair who looks like holes. What's happending with their hands? Are they splatting out in the air or what? Well you didn't provide an explanation to it. By the way, I don't think that good pictures come of their size, but quality (IE; you spend most of your picture comment 'explaining' how large it was). Overall nicely job, keep it up.

Fawriel Jan 5, 2004 11:52 AM

I won't explain why the hands blur away unless somebody asks me. One could think such an intelligent community could do that much thinking for themselves. =P
And the larger the image is, the more details I can put in.. I'm not one of those guys who write your name on a grain of rice.

Radium Jan 5, 2004 12:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Piccolo
I won't explain why the hands blur away unless somebody asks me. One could think such an intelligent community could do that much thinking for themselves. =P

Well, Moonblaze did ask, actually.
Quote:

Originally Posted by Piccolo
And the larger the image is, the more details I can put in.. I'm not one of those guys who write your name on a grain of rice.

A agree. While size doesn't determine quality, it is an important factor. Essentially, if you draw something with a pencil and someone says "nice use of charcoal," you drew too small.

Fawriel Jan 5, 2004 12:37 PM

Well... yeah, he did.
But I don't want to explain. =P

MoonBlazE Jan 5, 2004 01:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Piccolo
I won't explain why the hands blur away unless somebody asks me. One could think such an intelligent community could do that much thinking for themselves. =P

While it may be logical to you, because you drew the picture, I didn't see the motive that inspired you to the drawing. (Or the *picture in your head*) Thus such details may be very hard to understand, while realitive to you.

Fawriel Jan 5, 2004 01:07 PM

Fiiine...
I'll try to.
But please note that it's a very abstract drawing, so it may be hard to explain.
Well...
Those.. streams, or whatever you want to call them, are life-streams. As you can see, some end up around the dark part of the poem, and some end.
Fawriel is floating through his own streams of life, but tries to reach hers, which are seperated. But there is one stream that connects them, and when touching them, they kind of... flow into that stream.
Get it?


EDIT: And I said that I didn't want any criticism because Rad would always appear and SOMEHOW freak me out. And I really wasn't in the mood for that.

Radium Jan 5, 2004 01:35 PM

I think I understand the symbolism. I didn't notice it was a stream at first (looks a bit more like a tree, in my opinion), but now I think I get it.
Quote:

Originally Posted by Piccolo
EDIT: And I said that I didn't want any criticism because Rad would always appear and SOMEHOW freak me out. And I really wasn't in the mood for that.

Appear? That means I would have had to leave, and we know I never leave =P.

Define: "freak out"

Fawriel Jan 5, 2004 01:47 PM

freak out
v : lose one's nerve; "When he saw the accident, he freaked out" [syn: freak, gross out, lose control]

My own definition:
to freak Fawriel out
v: to say something that makes Fawriel wish one was near to him so he can smash his fist into one's face and afterwards break one's neck with his foot.

Radium Jan 5, 2004 01:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Piccolo
My own definition:
to freak Fawriel out
v: to say something that makes Fawriel wish one was near to him so he can smash his fist into one's face and afterwards break one's neck with his foot.

Captain Spam puts it better than you did:
[img]http://dementiaofmagic.net/comics/DoM20030804.png[/img]

And I updated my custom title!


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