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Newspaz Jul 11, 2005 05:47 PM

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Although, the J2e. maker thing isn't warez they still won't give it out. How's about people make it so the first level is in the Homecooked list AND the regular list, so if you delete the J2e. file it will be fine. And if the level won't let you do that....delete it all.
That's because it was given out in trust to Shadow. And Shadow gave it to some people who couldn't be trusted sadly, and those people did the same.

ShadeJackrabbit Jul 13, 2005 04:17 PM

What? Okay. That still doesn't answer my question. So, I guess we shall just wait for a final admin statement and then I am doomed to lie and wait and make my own JJ2-Freeware Edition! (In Gamemaker.) Or I'll just sob sadly :(

TaZaR Jul 13, 2005 04:46 PM

I dunno why episode thingie couldn't be free. Dunno if somebody remembers, but I've been worked on a Sonic & Jazz episode for JJ2. I've been uploaded some levels of it, for preview, and people liked it. (dunno if they still likes it) I was about 2 levels to finish to release it, and I was needed to get that j2e maker, to make my own episode file, as I imagined when I started the whole thing. But I wasn't get it, and slowly my mood went away about finish my episode. And I'm still not finished.
Well, okay, that's sounds ridicolous, but I'm talking about that, it's pretty annoying. And I dunno why is it a problem, that JJ2 crashes by much episodes. People just don't need to put all the episodes to it, and if somebody reads the level's readme file he'll know about this problem, and will be careful. If he not even care about to read it, and he's JJ2 goes wrong, who cares? It's not the people's fault. Actually that episode thing only would be bad for the leechers, not for the creators. :p
That JJ3D thing is a different one. Everybody says, it's not allowed, but you just need to ask the right person. :p
By the way I've been tought on, I think there's not a thing like that J2E editor. I think there's some way, to extract the stuffs with a hex editor, or something other. I've got a program long ago, which one was like this...

minmay Jul 13, 2005 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by TaZaR
I dunno why episode thingie couldn't be free. Dunno if somebody remembers, but I've been worked on a Sonic & Jazz episode for JJ2. I've been uploaded some levels of it, for preview, and people liked it. (dunno if they still likes it) I was about 2 levels to finish to release it, and I was needed to get that j2e maker, to make my own episode file, as I imagined when I started the whole thing. But I wasn't get it, and slowly my mood went away about finish my episode. And I'm still not finished.
Well, okay, that's sounds ridicolous, but I'm talking about that, it's pretty annoying. And I dunno why is it a problem, that JJ2 crashes by much episodes. People just don't need to put all the episodes to it, and if somebody reads the level's readme file he'll know about this problem, and will be careful. If he not even care about to read it, and he's JJ2 goes wrong, who cares? It's not the people's fault. Actually that episode thing only would be bad for the leechers, not for the creators. :p
That JJ3D thing is a different one. Everybody says, it's not allowed, but you just need to ask the right person. :p
By the way I've been tought on, I think there's not a thing like that J2E editor. I think there's some way, to extract the stuffs with a hex editor, or something other. I've got a program long ago, which one was like this...

I downloaded that "preview." I failed to review it, but I did hate it.

Violet CLM Jul 13, 2005 08:50 PM

Here's an admin response, assuming you'll accept a J2O admin on the JCF.

You are not going to get the episode maker. Regardless of logic, morality, etc, even if there is no good reason you should not get it, nobody is going to give it to you. In fact, the few people who do have it probably haven't even read this topic.
I was/am working on a solution to your problem, but I have very little spare time at the moment, so it may take a while. In any case, you can feel confident that something will be done that should satisfy you... spend the time creating/improving your episode.

TaZaR Jul 14, 2005 04:05 AM

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I downloaded that "preview." I failed to review it, but I did hate it
Great.
Otherwise, I will never finish that stuff, but I'm curious about that j2e thing.
The one thing I've been always asked, who was the one, who made that j2e editor. But I've been never get an answer for it.

Galavant Jul 14, 2005 04:59 AM

But, we can still make episodes for home cook Level's :)

Stijn Jul 14, 2005 05:02 AM

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Originally Posted by TaZaR
...a Sonic & Jazz episode for JJ2...

I remember that. I think I gave it a high rating :)

I agree that it's somewhat ridiculous that it's easier to get the JJ3 demo than the J2E maker. Though Unknown has no influence on that.

ShadeJackrabbit Jul 14, 2005 08:19 AM

Okay, that means the J2E maker must not exist. (This joke only makes sense because of my 21 hours of searching for the Jazz 3D demo and my 19 hours of searching for the J2E maker on google.)
But I've been wating for 2-3 years and I can wait longer.

TaZaR Jul 14, 2005 09:36 AM

You will never find JJ3d in google, but there are always other ways for search files... ;-)
I'm sure J2E editor does not exist. There's just a way, to modify the already maded J2E files. For example, you can make a copy one of them, renami it, and change the name of it, in hex editor, and the filename of the starting level. That's pretty easy. And I know there must be a way to change pictures in the J2E too.
These are the stuffs I'm already been tried to open it, and didn't worked:
- Renamed it to zip, and tried to extract.
- Try to open as an image with Ifranview
- The same, but before it, I've removed the first few rows with hex editor.
- Renamed it to j2t.

There must be an other way, and I'm sure, that's an easy way, just needs to find out... And maybe I'm not right, and was a j2e editor, for private release, but I'm not sure about it, since none from the community able to tell who made that j2e editor...

cooba Jul 14, 2005 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by TaZaR
I'm sure J2E editor does not exist.

So wrong.

n00b Jul 14, 2005 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by TaZaR
You will never find JJ3d in google

Once again, you are so wrong.

WvA Jul 14, 2005 01:11 PM

it is also used in last world so it have to exist? Or at least a way of making them

@unknow rabbit

i am looking forward to it. Still busy with episode but will be great to add that when it is done.

TaZaR Jul 14, 2005 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Cooba
So wrong.

Show me a screenshot about that program, and I will believe it. ;)

Sonyk Jul 14, 2005 06:10 PM

Show me how J2Es were made by someone in this community, and I will stop believing it.

Wow, this is going in circles.

Black Ninja Jul 14, 2005 08:02 PM

Ok, I'm fed up with all this nonsense. The J2E maker exists. I HAVE IT. It's a simple program. You make a .ini containing all the relevent episode info, you run the program, it reads the .ini, and it creates your episode(s). Will I distribute it? No. Will I make your life miserable if you PM me asking for it? Yes.

Wait for Violet's rux thing he's making.

n00b Jul 14, 2005 08:09 PM

Yes, violet's thing will reimagine(or rethink) .j2es, or at least thats what his MSN title thing said.

TaZaR Jul 15, 2005 12:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Black Ninja
Ok, I'm fed up with all this nonsense. The J2E maker exists. I HAVE IT. It's a simple program. You make a .ini containing all the relevent episode info, you run the program, it reads the .ini, and it creates your episode(s). Will I distribute it? No. Will I make your life miserable if you PM me asking for it? Yes.

I've asked for one screenshot & the name of the creator of that program, and there's one reason why nobody showed it yet: This is not a special j2e creator, but a common program, which one could be easy to get for everyone.. If not, there's no reason, to keep it in that much secret, I mean, one screenshot could be nice. So please somebody make one, and I won't asking more. Thanks.

Black Ninja Jul 16, 2005 01:24 PM

There can't be a screenshot because the program has no interface. Doesn't my post make that clear enough? It reads from the .ini and creates the .j2e files. That's all.

ShadeJackrabbit Jul 16, 2005 04:48 PM

Nononono. Black Ninja, we mean the PROGRAM. Not the .ini thing. Those are both methods. Can somebody tell me the name of the .exe file for making episodes? Not where to get it, I'll spend my own time on that. I just want the .exe file name for the J2E maker.

n00b Jul 16, 2005 05:00 PM

Zapper (and TaZaR), I think it works like the mod to .j2b converter. You just drag the .ini over the dos program, it flashes up and then it churns a .j2e. A screenshot would be pointless.
*Note- I am crazy man who has no idea what he is talking about so please prove me wrong if neccesary BN.
EDIT- And the mod-j2b converter has been called a "program" as well. That main point was missing in the original writing. So your mythical 'program' and .ini method of BN are one and the same! LE GASP!

Black Ninja Jul 16, 2005 05:20 PM

n00b is exactly right. Praise him.

Sonyk Jul 16, 2005 05:40 PM

And once again, we say it. With a community as small as this, the odds of you finding this program on a website or FTP server are extremely slim.

But sure, I'll play along. It's called Episode.exe

Birdie Jul 16, 2005 05:50 PM

or is it?

ShadeJackrabbit Jul 18, 2005 04:13 AM

Episode.exe, yah, good one. Give me the name of a scanner driver. You guys are making me sick. You guys get fun for making others miserable. Well you know what? I might just keep my episodes to myself and feed you rumour by rumour and screenshot by screenshot and then dash those rumours to pieces!! HAHAHA!!! (From my eyes this is exactly like the J2E maker thing. And yes, I will make this go in circles unless everyone who has it admits so and those who don't say they don't and people stop talking in riddles.) (NOTE:This is an opinion, not a threat. It may seem like a threat but it isn't. And my level pack at this rate will have more storyline than Rabbit Honor Gaurd: The fortress. But this is not about my level pack so never mind.)

EDIT:Black Ninja: You can press ctrl-alt-Prt Screen and copy it into paint.

Sonyk Jul 18, 2005 06:00 AM

Okay, before you get all testy, I'm NOT lying about the program's name.. Even though, if you get the program, you'd need the INI more.

Torkell Jul 18, 2005 06:06 AM

I get it. It's a program that reads in an INI file (probably called Episode.ini) which tells it what files to use. There's no UI in it because whoever wrote it couldn't be bothered/didn't see a need. And it's called Episode.exe as that's the most logical name for it in the absence of something like "KeWl Jj2 EpIsOdE MaKeR v1.33.7.exe".

Stijn Jul 18, 2005 06:43 AM

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Originally Posted by ZAPPER
And my level pack at this rate will have more storyline than Rabbit Honor Gaurd: The fortress.

Did RHG:TF have any storyline besides "devan on wants to destroy stuff kill him"?

White Rabbit Jul 18, 2005 06:47 AM

It was also about saving your honour, enforcing justice in the galaxy, hunting down a wanted criminal, deal with personal vendettas and watch big explosions. It's not much different from Die Hard 2 (which, btw, I thought was pretty good :p).

Black Ninja Jul 18, 2005 07:53 AM

OMG at the ignorance.

It IS called Episode.exe. By default, it reads from Episode.ini. OMG HOW HARD TO UNDERSTAND ROFL

n00b Jul 18, 2005 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by ZAPPER
Black Ninja: You can press ctrl-alt-Prt Screen and copy it into paint.

Zapper, have you EVER used the Mod-J2B converter? A Black Dos prompt flashes for less than a second. It says something along the lines of
"Reading mod file....
j2b created"
(I'm just guessing) Now since the Episode maker works along the same lines, just replace mod with "episode.ini" and j2b with "episode".
Getting a screenshot of something like that would mean having to slow down time.

Sonyk Jul 18, 2005 10:51 AM

[img]http://home.ripway.com/2005-7/355605/j2emaker.bmp[/img]

There. Enjoy it. Cherish it. It's all you're probably ever going to get. And no, I will not reveal how it is I got it.

TaZaR Jul 18, 2005 01:31 PM

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It's all you're probably ever going to get.
Don't be so sure about it.
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And no, I will not reveal how it is I got it.
I've been not asked for it. And thanks for the picture.
EDIT: I'd like to ask something other. What kind of image the program is using? I mean BMP or PNG or GIF or anything other? And how to add the image, if it's only asking for the INI file?

Violet CLM Jul 18, 2005 02:09 PM

.pcx.

MSB3000 Jul 18, 2005 03:56 PM

is it illegal?

Sonyk Jul 18, 2005 04:27 PM

Yes. It's very illegal. Just like the announcer, Overlord's program dubbed the console, and any and all cheating programs.

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Originally Posted by TaZaR
Don't be so sure about it.

Oh, but I am very sure about that.

Black Ninja Jul 19, 2005 05:19 PM

Good job getting that screen, SonyK. BUT HOW DID YOU GET TEH PROGRAM OMG ROFL

MoonBlazE Jul 20, 2005 01:42 AM

... This "Give me give me!" topic makes me sick.

Have you ever considered that the reasons for that this program is not uploaded on Jazz2online for public download is because there are CONSEQUENCES? Heck, it has been stated multiply times that the game has _limits_ and will crash if too many episode files are created. It has only been shared to those who are responsible enough to ensure that every single stupid level now days wouldn't require you to delete one of your current episode files.

If you want something so bad, why don't you prove yourself worthy of it by bringing up a super good episode to use it with?

- If anyone gives you the program they are a fool with no responsibility.

Directed to White Rabbit, more certain is it that although this community is *small* (in your opinion), 40-50 people having this program is STILL TOO MUCH. It would be the same as sharing a cheat program out to everyone: They will abuse it, and it will ruin the game for everyone. It is why that only the best and most creative episodes have gotten it.

I beg to differ that the program will not go future now. For the future of the JJ2 community and safety of every upload on the site.

Derby: Flame tag removal. Avoid coaxing others into fighting you.

Stijn Jul 20, 2005 02:13 AM

It really isn't so hard to get this program. Just ask people for it. There's a difference between asking for something and demanding to have it, you know.

And I don't get this "oh no the game will crash" problem. Modern technology allows you to extract only certain files out of a zip file! Problem solved.

Torkell Jul 20, 2005 03:40 AM

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Originally Posted by sers^^
It really isn't so hard to get this program. Just ask people for it. There's a difference between asking for something and demanding to have it, you know.

And I don't get this "oh no the game will crash" problem. Modern technology allows you to extract only certain files out of a zip file! Problem solved.

Yes, but does Joe Random User a) know how to do that or b) care about it? All he wants to do is to unzip the whole thing somewhere and then go play. He doesn't want to have to monkey around with multiple versions of the same tileset, idiots who set their level to "hide from hcl", idiots who set all their levels to "show in hcl" so he doesn't know where to start, idiots who use massive filenames so you cant read the levelname in the hcl list, and then suddenly have jazz crashing? If J.R.U. downloaded a new level pack, and then straight after jazz started crashing for no good reason, I'd bet that he would go and delete all the files from that levelpack and not play it (and probably leave a review saying "omg this crases jj2 dont play it").

Wow, that was a bit of a rant. I've had all of those except for JJ2 crashing happen to me. And don't get me started about people that don't include tilesets "because everyone will have them" and for some obscure reason fail to mention this in the readme.

BTW, that wasn't directed at anyone here (except for the first couple of sentences). Just about everything I've downlaoded from here has behaved itself.


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