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Jgke Oct 7, 2011 07:56 AM

I like cooba's version.

minmay Oct 7, 2011 08:00 AM

This set is turning into something I want to use! Hope it gets finished...

Anyway, here are the inside corner tiles for cooba's design, just so I can say I contributed something. Also, this file is smaller somehow.
[img]http://www.cowmuffins.net/jazz/newocta03.png[/img]

Obi1mcd Oct 7, 2011 08:32 AM

I'm wondering if the two colour lines are really needed. It's sort of hard to tell them apart, and it means basically twice the colours. And when that means almost 2 palette lines, it's eating them up pretty quickly.

cooba Oct 7, 2011 08:42 AM

Since they're probably a side effect of the Noise tool, I'd guess no.

Ktos. Oct 7, 2011 10:41 AM

[img]http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/8986/chujkurwa.png[/img]

Mushrooms(glowing mushroom animation is unfinished yet, I'll make that later).

Violet CLM Oct 7, 2011 10:45 AM

could you make the mushrooms more octagonal

(The redraw is looking great, peeps.)

Ktos. Oct 7, 2011 11:05 AM

Well I can try but I dont think its easy to make good-looking octagonal mushroom.

Seren Oct 7, 2011 11:47 AM

Adding glowing mushrooms to tilesets is my job.

Anyway, I thought you redesigned the base tiles by the way of converting this tileset to some theme. I mean, where is that theme then? Ice and snow it was meant to be iirc.

Ktos. Oct 7, 2011 12:15 PM

I couldn't find any ice or snow in it so I decided to put mushrooms.

Btw, maybe lest make octagonic temple/city covered with mushrooms?

Violet CLM Oct 7, 2011 03:11 PM

There was a brief informal poll on the last page and Jake, Sean, and Obi opted in favor of an ice-clad ruined city, with no opposition. How does one best differentiate a city from a castle/temple, anyhow, if they're both made of stone? Houses, I guess? Maybe a well?

(And if you were talking to me, I redesigned the base tiles because they didn't look plausibly solid.)

Ktos. Oct 8, 2011 01:42 PM

[img]http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/8986/chujkurwa.png[/img]

Finished glowing mushroom animation.

Edit:
[img]http://i54.tinypic.com/2nqv85d.gif[/img]

Obi1mcd Oct 9, 2011 05:44 AM

Okay, I've lowered the number of colours on the blocks and mushrooms, although cleaning up the blocks involved removing the noise, so perhaps it isn't as good. Oh, and I did the mushrooms before you finished the glowing animation, Ktos, so that's not there yet. Last but not least, I tried making some snow, so how does it look?
[img]http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/7820/lmat021.png[/img]
And I realize I'm probably doing a little too much drawing for a collaborative project, so I'll sit back and watch a little.

Ktos. Oct 9, 2011 09:56 AM

[img]http://img802.imageshack.us/img802/7820/lmat021.png[/img]

I haven't reduced number of colours because I have no idea in which way have you done it.

Added ice, icicles, that mushroom animation and few snow tiles.

Obi1mcd Oct 9, 2011 10:05 AM

The way in which I had done it was basically taking the outline and a few key colours and reshading it. Perhaps I'll have a go at the glowing animation just to keep them consistent. I like those icicles by the way.

Ktos. Oct 9, 2011 10:11 AM

Quote:

Perhaps I'll have a go at the glowing animation just to keep them consistent
That's why I haven't decided to do that.

Sean Oct 9, 2011 07:14 PM

I'm not quite sure I like the mushroom idea. It doesn't blend in well with snow.

On a similar note, I did some research on Arctic plants. Wikipedia has never been more appreciated. I've been working on converting them into some pixel art version ever since. I'll probably borrow the colors off Jazz to keep the number of colors low.

On another somewhat unrelated note, I'm going to keep with the ruined Roman city thing and start breaking everything. In the meantime, here is a poorly drawn and poorly dithered snow-blanketed ground. And some flowing off the sides.

[IMG]http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu217/h3llb0yn3cr0/lmat022.png[/IMG]

Just erase the bad text too.

EDIT: Behold, my best contribution yet.

[IMG]http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu217/h3llb0yn3cr0/lmat023.png[/IMG]

I am especially proud of the way the columns turned out. I am actually at most an amateur pixel artist.

I also added the blanketing snow to fill up onto a wall, and some other stuff going on.

And if you guys really don't mind, please, fill in the space marked with a vine. I am terrible with vines.

Obi1mcd Oct 10, 2011 09:51 AM

Nice. I'd better do those mushrooms.

Jgke Oct 10, 2011 10:57 AM

Awesome pillars. I'll see if I can do some vines...
E: Vines failed :(

Sean Oct 10, 2011 06:47 PM

Guys, how about we stick to the .bmp format? It'll be easier for everyone to keep track of the palette that way, and I can copy Jazz's colors off of the .pal file (or whatever extension you use) and draw the plants. If Obi's palette file is the only one there is, could he post either a .bmp file using the palette, or the palette itself?

In the meantime, a vine. Yay!

[IMG]http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu217/h3llb0yn3cr0/lmat024.png[/IMG]

Also, how does everyone feel about [IMG]http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu217/h3llb0yn3cr0/lmatproposedbg.png[/IMG] being the octagonic background?

Violet CLM Oct 10, 2011 09:30 PM


I added back in n00b's statue from the last version, adjusted for the expanded palette, and threw in an alternative proposal to Sean's cave background, partially largely to mess with people and partially because I think it would be genuinely cool if we could pull it off.

(Regarding palettes: that's not currently possible because of, I think, the glowing mushrooms, which have taken us into 16-bit territory. If we can get those reduced, we can reinstate a palette. I stuck some reference gradients in there, though, to be useful.)

Obi1mcd Oct 10, 2011 11:47 PM

Here, fixed the palette and mushrooms up.
[IMG]http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/9425/lmatpalettefix002.png[/IMG]
Also, I want to try reshading that statue now that there are a couple more shades of colour to work with.
@Sean
This is a .png, not a .bmp, but you should still be able to get the palette from this.

Violet CLM Oct 11, 2011 01:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Obi1mcd (Post 470856)
Also, I want to try reshading that statue now that there are a couple more shades of colour to work with.

For the record, I already did, but you are welcome to make it better. (Also in hindsight I forgot to do the base.)

Sean Oct 11, 2011 01:19 AM

[IMG]http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu217/h3llb0yn3cr0/lmat206.png[/IMG]

Berries. And how they rock.

EDIT: In case there's any confusion, I didn't use any colors here that aren't already in the palette. The greens are borrowed off Jazz and the berries' red are from Spaz.

Ktos. Oct 11, 2011 08:56 AM

Oh well, sorry for making things maybe a little 16bit-ish, but my way of making tilesets is just much different.

Obi1mcd Oct 11, 2011 09:04 AM

That's fine, it isn't difficult for me to reduce it.

Sean Oct 11, 2011 04:42 PM

Anyone else think that we need more variety in colors here? So far all we've been doing is centered around the same palette.

Seren Oct 12, 2011 12:52 PM

[IMG]http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/3831/lmat206.png[/IMG]A fountain. Sorry it looks a little lame, the style this tileset is using is rather new to me and I've never really tried drawing anything similar. If you think it's alright I might draw an animated version with water and/or a snow version with frozen water. But I'm going to work on improving it first anyway.

Toni_ Oct 12, 2011 02:55 PM

1) Fixed text signs (added snow and a normal sign) - 2 tiles
2) Added arrows (with snow and w/o it) - 12 tiles
3) Blocks (they don't look good. Someone fix them?) - 3 tiles
4) Added tiles for hurt scenery (with and w/o snow) - 6 tiles

[img]http://img825.imageshack.us/img825/9936/tileset1.png[/img]

Sean Oct 12, 2011 06:02 PM

And who might you be?

I request taking out the spikes. Let's not be cliche with our hurt scenery! Think of something distinctly Roman.

SE, that fountain's looking good. I suggest literally breaking it instead of making it work.

Violet CLM Oct 12, 2011 06:05 PM

Those arrows would be a good candidate for any color but brown, since otherwise they're going to be pretty hard to notice.

Sean Oct 12, 2011 08:18 PM

So I've got this great idea in my head. I have concept art that took me an hour of honest effort to finish the idea but epicly failed. So here's my idea.

An aqueduct should be the background. If you don't know what an aqueduct is, you've missed out on a big portion of Roman history. This is the concept art:

[IMG]http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu217/h3llb0yn3cr0/conceptart.jpg[/IMG]

Shitty? Extremely. You can see why I stopped. I tried to base the image off this flipped screenshot from Assassin's Creed: Brotherhood:

[IMG]http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu217/h3llb0yn3cr0/conceptbase.png[/IMG]

...except, of course, as a ruined winter version.

Now, to my idea. As you can see, the failed version/concept art has a large transparent background. That's because this was supposed to be on layer 7. Layer 8 will contain (nope! Not a textured background, god I would hate that in) a bunch of pixel clouds set on a blue background, with an auto X/Y speed. Clouds moving. If you get my drift.

Problem is that I'm just a very shitty artist. So I'm asking if anyone can try it out?

EDIT: Lazily put together example of what I have in mind: [IMG]http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu217/h3llb0yn3cr0/Animationbluh.gif[/IMG]

Violet CLM Oct 12, 2011 08:54 PM

FYI, auto speeds don't work on layer 8. That said, I'm all in favor of a nice, as Gus puts it, non-composable backdrop. Making it look like BioWinter but with architecture can only be a good thing.

Sean Oct 12, 2011 09:32 PM

FYI, I do know my layers. The autospeed will have to be put on layer 5, but the moving clouds won't be a necessary thing. We can always place static clouds inside. Of course, it will eat up some tiles, but hey, I think it's worth it!

Violet CLM Oct 12, 2011 09:37 PM

No, assigning your desired speeds to layer 5 only works if layer 8 is textured. Your post specifically proposes a non-textured layer 8, in which case it simply would not move.

Sean Oct 12, 2011 11:54 PM

Ah. Okay.

Jgke Oct 13, 2011 12:07 AM

Who says we couldn't get clouds on a textured background? :)

Sean Oct 13, 2011 01:21 AM

I was saying I don't want a textured background. That stuff always just looks weird as a real sky.

Obi1mcd Oct 13, 2011 01:43 AM

We should probably put a textured bg in as an option at least, but I agree about a non-textured one. If done right they look so much better than textured ones.

Toni_ Oct 13, 2011 01:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Unknown Rabbit (Post 470907)
Those arrows would be a good candidate for any color but brown, since otherwise they're going to be pretty hard to notice.

What color would connect to the tileset the best?

Sean Oct 13, 2011 03:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Just a Random User (Post 470928)
What color would connect to the tileset the best?

Red? Or maybe green.


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