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Risp_old Mar 7, 2006 04:54 PM

Is it the host or the client's computer which determines if you are hit by a weapon? Because, if it's the client, couldn't the client also cheat by modifying his sprite to be 1x1 pixel, so that he is really hard to hit?

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Birdie Mar 7, 2006 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Risp_old
Is it the host or the client's computer which determines if you are hit by a weapon? Because, if it's the client, couldn't the client also cheat by modifying his sprite to be 1x1 pixel, so that he is really hard to hit?

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If it is the client that is a real problem also neobeo already claimed the page :p

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Oh also please keep the import/export test.png as it is so you dont have to go find the file you want to import

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Originally Posted by golden jazz
Look! [IMG]http://i2.tinypic.com/qsuw49.jpg[/IMG]

Shadow rocks!

When im done with him, i'll start on Inuasha(Spaz)!

If you make inusaha ill kill you :P

Chiyu Mar 8, 2006 08:00 AM

This is actually pretty nice, I just wish it would have come 5 years earlier when I still created single player episodes :P.

ThunderPX Mar 8, 2006 09:23 AM

IIRC, an online game goes as the host sees it (which is also the cause of the ammo respawn bug, I believe.)

golden jazz Mar 9, 2006 05:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Birdie
If you make inusaha ill kill you :P

Why? He is nice.

i'we arlreddy fund some of the pics for him.
[IMG]http://www.sweetim.com/simiebar/content/emoticons/00020075.gif[/IMG]

R3ptile Mar 9, 2006 06:37 AM

:(

ThunderPX Mar 9, 2006 07:30 AM

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Originally Posted by golden jazz
Why? He is nice.

i'we arlreddy fund some of the pics for him.
[IMG]http://www.sweetim.com/simiebar/content/emoticons/00020075.gif[/IMG]

That's not Inuyasha...

White Rabbit Mar 9, 2006 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Risp_old
Is it the host or the client's computer which determines if you are hit by a weapon? Because, if it's the client, couldn't the client also cheat by modifying his sprite to be 1x1 pixel, so that he is really hard to hit?

Modifying your gunspot will modify it for everyone. A client can use it to cheat as easily as the host. Well, less easily since the client can get banned or kicked if he's caught. :p Modifying your size will have no effect for either host or client.

Grytolle Mar 9, 2006 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by White Rabbit
Modifying your gunspot will modify it for everyone. A client can use it to cheat as easily as the host. Well, less easily since the client can get banned or kicked if he's caught. :p Modifying your size will have no effect for either host or client.

Avoid posting bull(-) in the future, WR.:O

White Rabbit Mar 9, 2006 10:29 AM

It's all true. >O I've seen it with my own 4 2 eyes, and of course Neobeo knows about it as well. But I won't say anything else since you should wait for him to post rather than trust me to interpret what he says ;p You'll see...

golden jazz Mar 9, 2006 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by ThunderPX
That's not Inuyasha...

Hwo said that was Inuasha?!

It's just a smily.
[IMG]http://www.sweetim.com/simiebar/content/emoticons/0002006E.gif[/IMG]

n00b Mar 9, 2006 11:35 AM

Those Big smilies are a waste of post space(and may be 56k unfriendly). Refrain from using in them in the future.

MSB3000 Mar 9, 2006 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by golden jazz

You know they put viruses on your computer, right?

Odin Mar 9, 2006 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by golden jazz

Enjoy your malware-infested computer at the price of a few annoying animated GIF smilies!

[img]http://www.sweetim.com/simiebar/content/emoticons/00020075.gif[/img], my (-).

Birdie Mar 9, 2006 07:13 PM

i really dislike those large animated smileys
[IMG]http://img92.imageshack.us/img92/1725/stupsmiley7ac.png[/IMG]

Doubble Dutch Mar 9, 2006 09:58 PM

Thats not how you delete malware!

Go get winfixer, that'll sole *all* your problems.

Neobeo Mar 9, 2006 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by White Rabbit
It's all true. >O I've seen it with my own 4 2 eyes, and of course Neobeo knows about it as well. But I won't say anything else since you should wait for him to post rather than trust me to interpret what he says ;p You'll see...

Sounds like you were forcing me to support you :|. Yes, I have shown my gunspot-altered sprites to a select few. Apparently, all clients are affected, because (I think I mentioned this before) you send a packet saying "I shot this bullet from this spot" rather than "I shot this bullet". It can be easily exploited to give the user a huge advantage. In my experiments, I hid under a platform while shooting above the platform. Anyway, since there exist enough cheat programs already, I figured that gunspot-hacking would cause relatively little damage to the game. For that, I will include the option to change/set hotspot, coldspot and gunspot in my next release.

Update Downdate: My new release is taking longer than expected. Unfortunately, I am still unable to do anything with the sound format. I'm thinking of just dumping the sound samples as raw binary (.bin) and see if anyone with more sound experience can help. I'll probably get my new version of JSD up by around Tuesday next week.

Grytolle Mar 9, 2006 11:50 PM

"Modifying your size will have no effect for either host or client."
This is obviously very untrue though.

Neobeo Mar 9, 2006 11:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Grytolle
"Modifying your size will have no effect for either host or client."

Whoops. I totally neglected the second half of White Rabbit's message. This I have yet to verify, but I believe that if your sprite is really big and you get hit, you will see yourself getting hurt, but the server (and thereby other clients) will not.

White Rabbit Mar 10, 2006 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Neobeo
Sounds like you were forcing me to support you :|

Ok, if I remove the 'You'll see' at the end of that post, does it sound less like you being obliged to post? ;p I didn't mean that..it was more of me asking you to reply to other people's questions since I can't answer them to such a full extent.

(Also, please let this be the last off-topic post here :p).


EDIT:
[IMG]http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/4491/eva7th.png[/IMG]
Look where Eva's hotspot is. :D

CrimiClown Mar 10, 2006 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by White Rabbit
[IMG]http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/2742/eva9px.png[/IMG]
Look where Eva's hotspot is. :D

:eek:

n00b Mar 10, 2006 12:16 PM

Bwahahha, nice

DoubleGJ Mar 10, 2006 12:54 PM

Nick's got the spirit! =D

Doubble Dutch Mar 11, 2006 03:38 AM

C'mon, we all secretly knew that =D

NeonPSY Mar 11, 2006 10:42 AM

This is awesome. You could make your own enemies for your level packs. BTW, Somebody should put a backup Animation file on j2o if someone screws up theirs.

R3ptile Mar 11, 2006 11:28 AM

Or you could just back it up yourself..

CrimiClown Mar 11, 2006 11:52 AM

Or you could get it off your CD... Unless you're lame and illegally downloaded the game... ;)

n00b Mar 11, 2006 12:02 PM

And then you just illegally download the game again.

Obviously we do not need a backup download.

CrimiClown Mar 11, 2006 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by n00b
And then you just illegally download the game again.

Obviously we do not need a backup download.

WAREZ ENCOURAGING! :O

Bad n00b... >O

n00b Mar 11, 2006 01:57 PM

I'm sorry, I'm not the one who brought up the subject in the first place.
EDIT- editing the Logo sprites are a royal pain, the colors never appear correctly in JJ2.
This is the image imported into JSD
This is what the main menu looks like with new logo
This is what one of the demos looks like with the new logo

Marijn Mar 11, 2006 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by ThA BLiNG BLiNG n00b
I'm sorry, I'm not the one who brought up the subject in the first place.
EDIT- editing the Logo sprites are a royal pain, the colors never appear correctly in JJ2.
This is the image imported into JSD
This is what the main menu looks like with new logo
This is what one of the demos looks like with the new logo

Did you try to replace the character sprites ( and difficult levels sprite )....
Same problem, only bigger.

Are ther any (compresst) .dll of jazz2 ? Or can i hook the jazz2.exe process and use the functions as well ?

n00b Mar 11, 2006 07:44 PM

I'll give you one guess on who this is:
[img]http://www.maj.com/gallery/Lijik/Runescapephotos/skitchscreen.png[/img]

Violet CLM Mar 11, 2006 08:56 PM

Wait... how do I change the number of frames in an animation?

Radium Mar 11, 2006 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by ThA BLiNG BLiNG n00b
I'll give you one guess on who this is:
/image/

He needs to be in the running position and only have one frame of animation.

Neobeo Mar 11, 2006 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Unknown Rabbit
Wait... how do I change the number of frames in an animation?

This isn't available yet, unfortunately. But expect this to be a new feature (among many others) in my upcoming release.

Super_Jarno Mar 12, 2006 01:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Neobeo
This isn't available yet, unfortunately. But expect this to be a new feature (among many others) in my upcoming release.

Please say the red words again!

Violet CLM Mar 12, 2006 01:20 AM

Which I guess means that you do know how to do it. All right, I can wait on my project a few days. :)

Pako Mar 12, 2006 02:28 AM

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Originally Posted by ThA BLiNG BLiNG n00b
I'll give you one guess on who this is:
[IMG]http://www.maj.com/gallery/Lijik/Runescapephotos/skitchscreen.png[/IMG]

AAAHHHHH!!! Is that...? Really...? I hope hes who I think, because if he is, he isn't totally right, just some miscoloring stuff. Oh, and he lacks of a gun.
EDIT= W00t, he's NOT Crash Bandicoot, I mistook him ;P.

n00b Mar 12, 2006 05:23 AM

Yeah I thought about that Pako, and decided that he punches out ammo ala Stinkoman (seee the stinkoman game at www.homestarrunner.com)
And those are the best colors I could get using JJ2's pallete.

Stijn Mar 12, 2006 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Radium
He needs to be in the running position and only have one frame of animation.

The running animation was actually finished, and online. Electric Ir and maybe ToxicBunny probably still have it.


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