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Trafton Nov 25, 2002 01:20 PM

Can you add some function that alerts an administrator if a user rates a level by an author with the same or similar IP? I've seen it happen, and it's sort of unfair to other level makers. Also, can you try to make the maximum file size that doesn't cause a 404 a bit higher?

Nebula Nov 25, 2002 01:26 PM

raising the filesize: possible. But I'm sure we'll make it so that it shows the uploader an error if the filesize is too big ;)

Trafton Nov 25, 2002 01:29 PM

YaY. It's getting a bit tiring constantly having to explain to new uploaders why no one can download their file. I'm all out of ideas...for now. J2Ov2 sounds great. Pretty much every idea I've given to FQuist so far has already been added.

Another Jazz 2 fan Nov 27, 2002 03:29 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Trafton
Can you add some function that alerts an administrator if a user rates a level by an author with the same or similar IP?
What if you have two people using the same computer? (like Flint and me). I say no to that.

OOH OOH, Have the option to upload 1 screenshot (.jpg or.gif) to show of level/tileset when uploading! (This can be displayed in More Info, or maybe by clicking a link.)

I hope you haven't forgotten the suggestion to move levels back to the top of the list when they are reuploaded.

~AJ2f

When can we expect J2O v2?

Trafton Nov 27, 2002 03:44 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Another Jazz 2 fan
What if you have two people using the same computer? (like Flint and me). I say no to that.

OOH OOH, Have the option to upload 1 screenshot (.jpg or.gif) to show of level/tileset when uploading! (This can be displayed in More Info, or maybe by clicking a link.)

I hope you haven't forgotten the suggestion to move levels back to the top of the list when they are reuploaded.

~AJ2f

When can we expect J2O v2?

I meant when someone rates an upload of an author with the same IP, not two people rating the same upload with one IP. ;-P

I really like the reupload idea, and the screenshot idea is good, too.

Violet CLM Nov 27, 2002 06:05 PM

He means, what if AJ2F wants to rate something of Flint's, or vice versa? (Or Aiko and his brother, for example)

Trafton Nov 27, 2002 06:08 PM

That doesn't happen constantly, so I don't really think it would cause too much trouble, but I guess that isn't the best idea. ;P

MoonBlazE Nov 28, 2002 02:52 AM

A quote ability in comments on pictures and articles.
Also, comments on level uploaded could be cool too.

Trafton Nov 28, 2002 11:36 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Moonblaze
A quote ability in comments on pictures and articles.
Also, comments on level uploaded could be cool too.

Can't we already comment on uploaded levels?

Nebula Nov 29, 2002 09:55 AM

on multiple IPs, you'd have to take into account, all those poor, unfortunate AOL users ;)

They all have the same IPs. More or less.

Trafton Nov 29, 2002 11:39 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Nebula
on multiple IPs, you'd have to take into account, all those poor, unfortunate AOL users ;)

They all have the same IPs. More or less.

I suppose that's a point. I always forget about dem poor AOL users. ;P

Disregard the idea. Too STUP. Plus, that wouldn't do anything to prevent dialup users from cheating.

MoonBlazE Nov 29, 2002 12:10 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Trafton
Can't we already comment on uploaded levels?
There is an indeed difference from a review and a comment Trafton.

Another Jazz 2 fan Nov 29, 2002 12:18 PM

A comment is an N/A review. Simple as that.

Umm... how about appointing somebody as an official reviewer, some one who is fair and strict. (like Aiko when he used to review everything.) Too many files don't get reviewed. The reviews wouldn't have to go into too much detail. But this person would have to be very committed.

(And he/she should start by reviewing all the currently non-reviewed files.)

Trafton Nov 29, 2002 12:26 PM

Hmm...I'm not sure that would be a great idea. After all, that would cause the problem where the admins would have to pick certain users over others, which could be a matter of personal preference. Besides, Aiko hasn't reviewed much lately. Still, I think he's a very good reviewer, and would probably do a good job.

Tik Dec 4, 2002 05:50 AM

Erm, I have no idea if this has already been suggested, but what about instead of having to upload your level directly to j2o, you could give the URL to another location?

This would slightly lessen the load on j2o's server, save filespace, and in some cases probably make uploading/re-uploading something more convenient.

It would also be nice to have the possibility of including other URLs with the download, such as a link to the a site about the specific submission or a link to a level making group's web page. Or to whatever you want =P

Trafton Dec 14, 2002 08:42 PM

This is about the J2O Downloads section.
I've been looking through the rating list and noticed that some ratings are listed as being rated 1.0 though they aren't actually rated at all. For instance, one of Jaws' packs has one N/A rating but displays as a 1.0. I calculated it, and this did effect Jaws' average ratings. Also, I've noticed that downloads with one ten rating and no other ratings are listed amoung the 2's. The 1.0 bug I mentioned is sort of unfair to people who have a 1.0 rating that is edited or deleted and no other ratings. It could seriously mess up (or, on the flip side, rocket) someone's average rating. Could this please be fixed in J2Ov2?

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Originally posted by Spaztic
Erm, I have no idea if this has already been suggested, but what about instead of having to upload your level directly to j2o, you could give the URL to another location? This would slightly lessen the load on j2o's server, save filespace, and in some cases probably make uploading/re-uploading something more convenient.
Actually, this is done pretty easily now. All that is required when someone uploads something is a .ZIP file, regardless of what it contains. Some large downloads (like Overlord's Rabbit Honor Guard) do link to another site and have the .ZIP contain nothing but the link. However, if you mean that as in letting the Download link point somewhere else, I suppose this would be possible if there were no security problems.

Quote:

It would also be nice to have the possibility of including other URLs with the download, such as a link to the a site about the specific submission or a link to a level making group's web page. Or to whatever you want =P
I like that idea. Maybe a "related links" field or something of that sort?

Nebula Dec 15, 2002 05:39 AM

The 1.0 rating bug has been fixed, since we're recoding the download system completely.

As for supplying a URL to download the file...well...why would you want to put it on your own server? Updating/reuploading will be much easier now, since we have much more PHP experience on our sides...But, I guess. Also, a related links idea sounds good. I'll go put it in our todo system ;)

Trafton Dec 15, 2002 02:35 PM

BlurredD wanted me to post this for him.

How about a top 10 or 20 monthly download list?

Violet CLM Dec 15, 2002 03:06 PM

That reminds me.. when you use the Reupload function, it automatically sets Level Type to Assault, and Tileset to Beach.. (Or something like that. But it does reset some things)

Trafton Dec 15, 2002 03:17 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Unknown Rabbit
That reminds me.. when you use the Reupload function, it automatically sets Level Type to Assault, and Tileset to Beach.. (Or something like that. But it does reset some things)
Yes, I've noticed that too. Does it also reset the version?

Nebula Dec 15, 2002 04:35 PM

you can rest assured, re-uploading won't reset anything in J2Ov2 ;)

Trafton Dec 15, 2002 04:52 PM

This is probably a stupid question but:

Will the current downloads remain and what will be changed about them in the conversion if they do remain?

Nebula Dec 15, 2002 05:04 PM

yes they will remain (there's no way we'd remove them), and no, nothing will change...I think.

Trafton Dec 16, 2002 12:39 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Nebula
yes they will remain (there's no way we'd remove them), and no, nothing will change...I think.
OK, great. In the meanwhile, I noticed how to "fix" the downloads that have a rating of 1 (or 10) that were actually never rated. Just rate them, edit them to N/A, and then delete the review. The rating will be set back to N/A. I took the liberty of going through some of the downloads and fixing their reviews, but there weren't many. Sorry if I shouldn't have done that.

One more question: will there be a beta or demo version of J2Ov2 released? If I have to wait almost half a year see the final version, I may spontaneously combust. ;-P

Tik Dec 17, 2002 05:25 AM

I had some other ideas. Whee.

It would be nice if you could set the number of viewable downloads to more than 20. It's probably often that someone uploads something worth looking at but soon it is pushed past the main page because someone's uploaded a bunch of (if I may say) crappy levels. Have the default number be at 20, but have a form where you can change the default number you can see as far as your personal preferences.

I had another idea, but it would be much harder to incorporate, I'd imagine. It had to do with making J2O fully customizable. When I work on SJ I use a program called GreyMatter for posting news, and in GreyMatter you can fully customize every aspect of everything using variables. Basically you set up the basic HTML as far as tables, colors, etc, and then for putting in actual content you put in variables that will return the content. GreyMatter's variables appear in a set of two brackets, ie {{post}} or something like that. With this option you could have a large variety of skins and formats for those with enough energy and time to create them, though I don't doubt that this would be rather difficult to consider since you guys have most of the formatting laid out already hard-coded.

Just an idea...

Trafton Dec 17, 2002 12:38 PM

In theory, the current generation of J2O has skins...but they don't work and just default to black text on a black background (impossible to read.) I think this will be implimented. It would nice to be able to use Black & Red both on the JCF and J2O.

I like the second idea Spaztic had. I've often wanted that.

Thirdly, when an uploaded file is deleted, it just seems to become "hidden." Couldn't it be completely removed instead?

Violet CLM Dec 17, 2002 02:51 PM

In response to Spaztic's first paragraph, http://www.jazz2online.com/downloads...l_id+desc&p=1.

Trafton Dec 17, 2002 02:56 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Unknown Rabbit
In response to Spaztic's first paragraph, http://www.jazz2online.com/downloads...l_id+desc&p=1.
True, but that takes extra effort. There should be a default that can be set, maybe even more (or, for those poor 28Kers), or less levels shown by default.

Snowball Dec 28, 2002 12:12 PM

I have no idea if these have been posted earlier in the thread..: a "report this post to a moderator" at the downloads and pictures
I've often wanted that ;)

and (perhaps) change the name from "pictures" to "pictures and voices" or like that

Trafton Dec 28, 2002 12:23 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Snowball
I have no idea if these have been posted earlier in the thread..: a "report this post to a moderator" at the downloads and pictures
I've often wanted that ;)

and (perhaps) change the name from "pictures" to "pictures and voices" or like that

A "Report this post to a Moderator" in both pictures and downloads would be great. I don't mind the second idea, but "Pictures and Voices" would be pretty long for the somewhat miniature J2O navigation bar.

Nebula Dec 29, 2002 02:10 PM

the reporting feature is already done, and is working on downloads, reviews, and will be integrated into everything (articles, article reviews, news comments, etc...).

As for the pictures system...I'm not sure if we decided to kill that or not.

Trafton Dec 29, 2002 02:18 PM

The pictures section seems to be where the most...err...content is. ;P

Many people might object if the pictues section was taken down. What about a pictures section where commenting was disabled?

FQuist Dec 29, 2002 02:24 PM

Skins are too much work at this time I think.. and I wonder if it will be that usable for a small site like ours. Different coloring styles are available though, and the option to customize parts of the tables and the css.

Trafton Dec 29, 2002 02:26 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Fquist
Skins are too much work at this time I think.. and I wonder if it will be that usable for a small site like ours. Different coloring styles are available though, and the option to customize parts of the tables and the css.
By 'skins' do you mean any default coloring modification of any sort or the type that completely changes how the page looks (including logos, etc.)?

FQuist Dec 29, 2002 02:53 PM

The latter.

Trafton Jan 5, 2003 08:50 AM

The current J2O makes everything black-on-black when you attempt to customize it. Will this be fixed, or just completely removed, in J2Ov2?

Nebula Jan 5, 2003 08:56 AM

fixed. It will also have a greater deal of customization ;)

Blackraptor Jan 6, 2003 06:40 PM

Well, you can add some features to the article section (As in, view articles by last post or something), but i doubt that will be done.

Trafton Jan 6, 2003 06:42 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Blackraptor
Well, you can add some features to the article section (As in, view articles by last post or something), but i doubt that will be done.
I actually like that idea. The Articles section is useful - I think more people should contribute.

Violet CLM Jan 16, 2003 01:43 PM

I'm not sure if this was posted before ot not, I saw it at one point on the first page, but it was ignored, and I don't have the time (currently) to check through the other pages.
Some feature in uploading levels/tilesets/etc that specifies other users that should get credit for it in their "levels by this author" area. Of course, the person specified would have to accept the crediting, because otherwise you could upload something which got lots of 1.0s and credit it to someone who you dislike, without them being able to do anything about it.. This would also cut down on all the "Flea and Rage" (more then one person) accounts.


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