That looks kinda plain, it's not an easy set to use well.

Might as well B stuff from helldome and arrange the stuff differently.

You must strive for originality.

You must strive to give the player an enjoyable, fun to play, experience!

Yeah, I've never gotten used to building levels. Just messing around with pixels was the key. I'll try building a level after the tileset.

master of the obvious

it didn't seem to be apparent to FS

My next idea is to make a house tileset for a house level. I played some game where some people from a clan made a house map of their clan. I noticed J2O had a database of hotel levels. This gave me a idea to make my own.

u teech me more about lvl design plz? :)))

kk :)))))))))))))))))))
lessons good and bad? here floows:

good lvls: semi
bad levels: diveid && conkuwer

good colors for good tiles: pink
bad colors for bad tiles: pink (bcuz thats onl for good tiles)

best jcs event: 99 (use it!!?)

gl makin levels, affro fs

when ur level is done (n is gudd) u can goning it on j2o www.jazz2onilne.com/downlaods (site is down right now it seems :(:(:()

originality is unimportant, compared to the level being worth the play, and definitely not anything you have to strive for consciously bcuz then this can happen
[img]http://www.merello.com/images2/european_expressionism_expressionists.-merello._bullfighter_in_the_sunset(92x60).jpg[/img]
and u wouldnt want that on ur conscience

You should wright an article Grytolle! That would help some crappy level creators like FireSworD, BlurredD, Snooze, Cooba, Birdie, Violet and Evilmike to maybe create something decent.

My attempt at using the WBRG tileset
 

[IMG]http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/6864/secretev4.png[/IMG]

Level name is being kept secret for now. And no, I'm not copying Helldome.
Level type is CTF.

HAHAHAahaahdsfhdsfg :lol::lol::lol:

Your level looks good spaz18 , I don't think many levels use that tileset.

I just now noticed this. It heavily reminds me of jill of the jungle, even though brick tiles like that are so common.

Looks interesting :)

Yes, do show a bigger pic where we can see ground and such, please.

There is one a few pages earlier in the thread. Currently I'm sort of doubting on whether to keep the ground as it is so any pictures of the current state aren't really representative.

It's more of a "fire temple" themed set than anything else, though even that is not finalized yet.

I'll expect a lot if it's gonna be titled (or have any reference to) "Fire Temple".

it's on the todo-list, after the article where i trash evilmike's epicly bad single player packs!

Really, Snz, after all these years you should know better than to talk about level making with Grytolle. All he cares about is good (multiplayer) gameplay.

b2ctf rocks!!!!

I can't deny that what St. Louis says is 100% true (historical occasion, thus!).

Well uhh, yeah, another race, the spring is probably a hint as to what the level will be like further up, and also, I just felt like trying something I haven't seen yet. Hi.

P.S, I hid some of the EC effects that are in the real level, just look forward to them I guess.

currently the EC reminds me of Metroid series, and that's certainly something cool

Nice, but also annoying.
Springs (that are necessary to pass some part...) in a race are kinda 'meh'.
As when you're shot, kicked, stomped (or hit by an uppercut...) u can't use them for a while and I'm positive that no one wants that.

... This, however, is just my own opinion on this, good job otherwise.

that's what makes race games somewhat interesting, though

I usually play race with /stop on nowadays for levels that emphasize that ability.

Will this level include a frog or two?

Well yeah, that works.
Then again, it might make other things worse in a number of ways...
Anyway, just finish that race and let me beta test of sth, it wouldn't be the first time my theory is wrong.

I'm going with the obvious: shortcut?

I've contemplated it for several other races, for frogs and birds, this level probably won't include that feature, here's a question, does anyone actually think I should try a bird/frog race?

Nope. ;o Try again later. My other race is the one packed with shortcuts, then again, no reason not to put loads of shortcuts here either.

*raises hand*

*raises three hands*

*raises a frog flag*

Looks insteresting. And, I call 2000 post!

*raises paws*

So it's settled, I'll make a frog race, and I already have some ideas as to how I can make it slightly interesting just to uhh, replace shooting?

frog lickwar

Yeah licking will have something to do with it. ;)

P.S: I won't start that till I finish this race. The WSF one.

About my Emerald Forest map (I made it a looooonnnnng time ago), well I know it's finished, but I'm going to restart making it. It is way too small so I'm going to expand its size. I am going to keep its name, but change it [the tileset] to night and it's going to use aws_cave.xm for music.

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Edit: Screenshot:

As you can see, I think I got the mood of the level down pretty well with this piece of music.