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R3ptile May 8, 2006 06:48 AM

i'm sorry but one person can't schedule, host and referee 16 matches per week and still have some free time

besides, the problem isn't about scheduling the matches. it's just that people are too unmotivated or lazy.

Jerrythabest May 8, 2006 08:22 AM

dont forget my TB tournament! :) rather start playing 2on2 and 3on3 again ;)

R3ptile May 8, 2006 08:23 AM

ctf > tb

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Jerrythabest May 8, 2006 08:50 AM

GF > TB > CTF > Duels > public battle > treasure > public CTF/TB > not playing

ChaosRR May 8, 2006 08:57 AM

GF=GroundForce? Like survivor?

Vegito May 8, 2006 09:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThA BLiNG BLiNG RaBBiT
it's just that people are too unmotivated or lazy.


*agrees*

Chaos, yes

Grytolle May 8, 2006 09:32 AM

CTF 2on2/3on3 > all. =D

Sasik May 8, 2006 09:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jerrythabest
GF > TB > CTF > Duels > public battle > treasure > public CTF/TB > not playing

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChaosRR
GF=GroundForce? Like survivor?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vegito
Chaos, yes

No! GF=Girlfriend :-) In this meaning I agree with Jerry, GF > All ;P

R3ptile May 8, 2006 10:15 AM

Duels > battle > tests > ctf > races > public ctf\tb > tb > gf > hotels :D

ChaosRR May 8, 2006 10:22 AM

I agree totally that hotels gets the last place8D

Sucer May 8, 2006 10:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChaosRR
I agree totally that hotels gets the last place8D

Me too:D

CTF3vs3>CTF2vs2>CTF duels>TB>battle duels>public CTF/public TB>races>ground force>treasure>tests>Hotels

Lol it's not 16 matches, only 8:P
And yeah, people are too lazy. Maybe a supervisor for 4 teams is enough? Each 4 would be active and agree with teh time via e-mail or MSN ON TIME.

Jerrythabest May 8, 2006 11:10 AM

I actually started a widely interested question! :o maybe I'll make some voting page with all options, where you can choose the order =D this is actually quite interesting.. but get ontopic now ;) you'll hear from me:P didnt know there was such a difference

R3ptile May 8, 2006 11:48 AM

sucer!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! nothing can be matched to a good, intensive duel

Vegito May 8, 2006 12:44 PM

Haha, sasik, good thinking yes. I totally agrere on that ;d

maverick May 8, 2006 11:43 PM

Duels are based on luck and lag. That's true and accept it :P.Of course, duels sometimes are fun, however 1v1 can't be compared to 2v2/3v3 because to win team game, you need more than luck :P
Btw. I didn't play the game serious [ LB vs mYm] because I couldn't focus. My 'teammate' instead of playing, was talking crap in teamchat and I must admit that in spamming during game he's good. :)
Oh, and I couldn't stand his n00bish actions like teaching me how to play :)

Grytolle May 8, 2006 11:46 PM

The seek powerup is the key in distopa btw. And don't RTS in 2v2.

R3ptile May 8, 2006 11:48 PM

Duels are based on lag and luck? Now you really wrecked me up. You just cannot admit you are a bad dueller and find stupid excuses instead. Duels are mostly based on stratergy and skill, and the fact I used to play with around 550ms for two months and haven't lost a single match is a proof. Do you think Bob, Skull and I are just lucky? Sure, sometimes the winner is decided by luck, like everything in life, but saying that duels are only based on lag and luck is just stupid.

Grytolle May 9, 2006 01:43 AM

Lag does have a greater impact in duels, than in 2on2s though - since your teammate can't cover your airhits in a 1on1.

maverick May 9, 2006 02:28 AM

Or fakes.

Sucer May 9, 2006 05:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grytolle
The seek powerup is the key in distopa btw. And don't RTS in 2v2.

Yes, I tryed to teach these kind of things to Mave, but he just sticks to what he thinks is the best:( That's bad teamspirit.
Good teamplay=TRUST YOUR PARTNER! If the partner says to not be rts, do that, even if he is worse a player, doesn't mean he has bad sence of strategy.

During LB vs. mYm I didn't teamchat at all, as Mave didn't. What's the use of teamchatting to myself. Mave consentrated on talking crap to Grytolle, which he apparently wasn't even listening to.
Me and Mave just suck together. Mave has too much pride to take any commands. If I say "go rts" he floods the teamchat with "NOOB IDIOT, I>YOU, DON'T TELL ME HOW TO PLAY YOU NOOB!"
That's what (-)es me off, not the fact that he plays as well as the gameboy that FQuist ate.

I just wanted you to know this, so you won't blame me for leaving mYm for nothing.

and r3p! Duels can be extremely fun with minumum lag. Today I dueled Mave at his CTO/3hk/220ms/airhit/fake carrot/bad respawn server. Mave was fun, he actually was leading the match but quit when I started to take more seriously and score points.
As you said Mave I have propably never seen you play seriously. I've seen you shouting and blaming me for not playing well, but never seen your incredible talent.
Lol, but I know you have it, no noob can can be in part of a team that beat Dizzy-FireSword-AvK.

So the next season will be a 1vs1 tourney?

Grytolle May 9, 2006 06:07 AM

Hopefully not.

R3ptile May 9, 2006 06:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sucer
Lol, but I know you have it, no noob can can be in part of a team that beat Dizzy-FireSword-AvK.

Well, DM were rusty and weren't too good in that level... :rolleyes:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sucer
So the next season will be a 1vs1 tourney?

Yes, mainly because 2 on 2 and 3 on 3 tourneys don't seem to work these days.

Grytolle May 9, 2006 06:15 AM

Please not that this one is still going. The main reason tournaments fail is that the supervisor say "WE WONT DO THIS UNLESSW E HAVE 100 TEAMS!!!!1", and then unmotivated people join in.

R3ptile May 9, 2006 06:16 AM

i didn't force anyone to join...

Sucer May 9, 2006 06:22 AM

Nope:) But you banned me and my teammate couse I started to shout to ya about some stupid point that ment nothing anyway:D

R3ptile May 9, 2006 06:25 AM

no, you got banned because you left the tournament and then when you wanted to rejoin i was kind and let you play just with one forfeit loss and you still had complaints

maverick May 9, 2006 06:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sucer
1)Yes, I tryed to teach these kind of things to Mave, but he just sticks to what he thinks is the best

2)Good teamplay=TRUST YOUR PARTNER! If the partner says to not be rts, do that, even if he is worse a player, doesn't mean he has bad sence of strategy.

3)During LB vs. mYm I didn't teamchat at all, as Mave didn't. What's the use of teamchatting to myself. Mave consentrated on talking crap to Grytolle, which he apparently wasn't even listening to.

4)Me and Mave just suck together. Mave has too much pride to take any commands. If I say "go rts" he floods the teamchat with "NOOB IDIOT, I>YOU, DON'T TELL ME HOW TO PLAY YOU NOOB!"


5)Today I dueled Mave at his CTO/3hk/220ms/airhit/fake carrot/bad respawn server. Mave was fun, he actually was leading the match but quit when I started to take more seriously and score points.

6)Lol, but I know you have it, no noob can can be in part of a team that beat Dizzy-FireSword-AvK.

1)First of all, I'm playing jj2 longer than you which means I'm more experienced than you are. So don't tell me what should I do. I won many games playing my own style (and seek pu isn't key on distopia, btw ;))

2)Ok,I will try to tell all of you about the game before so mYm. vs G_G (Danyjel.Sperry) :
Maverick - e1 ,get rts
Sucer - rts3
Maverick roasted SperryG_G
Danyjel captured the flag

And it was happening continually so who should I trust? My teammate who EVEN didn't try to be rts when I told him to be? If you would die, I wouldn't blame you for that -_-

3)Grytolle loves talking with me =D! and I used teamchat a lot. You didn't. Say everything, not only part of true ^^

4)I didn't flood you when you told me me 'go rts'.I went and scored , so (-) -_-. I flooded you when you instead of getting quickly ready to recapture, you were waiting for ammo. I rememmber, that in second round,when I was 'brb' for a while but near PC, you asked Sperry what should you do firstf : get ammo or get r . :)))))))))))))))))

5) - You CTOoed when had 1 heart so I couldn't kill you
- You didn't have any 3hk ,
- You had 127 ms when came to server .When I turned my MSN off,ping was lower for sure ,
- You had one airhit though it didn't really matter because my seeks and bouncers got you :) ,
- There wasn't any fake carrot,
- You didn't say anything bad about respawn during game and it was on , btw.

6)@ Rep : I wouldn't say that DM were rusty.In JJ2WC1 they won with VS on Sbv2 6-0 but they didn't use their best [Spotty played instead of FireSword] .
In JJ2WC2 we did get a chance to rematch and we won. I know that you are trying to say that VS was lucky and I'm bad player but I don't care. =)

Vegito May 9, 2006 07:50 AM

omg I love this arrogance Versus arrogance versus arrogance talk.
rofl, I just had to mention that. ;p

maverick May 9, 2006 08:12 AM

No no this isn't arrogant ;o
I just wanna tell everything because Sucer didn't mention some important things + he changed some facts too ^^

R3ptile May 9, 2006 08:44 AM

conclusion: 2v2's sux and you should start dueling more :D

maverick May 9, 2006 09:10 AM

Haha,never. 3v3 = 2v2 > 1v1 =D

Sucer May 9, 2006 09:55 AM

Mave oh yes you shouted. And you had some reason to do so as:

Mave: e1, BERTS
Sucer: rts3
mave: Ok now e1 BERTS

waited about a min when I thought he would never kill and went off the base and
Maverick roasted sperry
Danjyel captured the flag
Mave: NOOB YOU WEREN'T RTS
Sucer: Sorry:(

then the next time it happened just like mave said, this time I was again just a bit off the base when Danjyel came while my CTO and took the flag. You must understand that I can't help my CTO's.
Well the situation wasn't always this bad. Me and Mave won the game, even though we sucked and lost scores like that.

But against LB...
YOU CAN*T MAVE SAY THAT YOU TEAMCHATTED AT ALL. You said one thing in teamchat and that was: "I don't teamchat with respectless noobs"

R3ptile May 9, 2006 10:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by maverick
Haha,never. 3v3 = 2v2 > 1v1 =D

nah, they are even not half as exciting and intensive, and you don't have to use your brain as much in them

Grytolle May 9, 2006 11:17 AM

you do, if you are gonan be really good. Besides reasoning like this... people who only play duels well are asocial beings, with no real friends =D

DanYjel May 9, 2006 03:02 PM

yay, the tournament is dead? lower bracket empty etc?

Enigma May 10, 2006 02:04 AM

Ok people, group hug, group hug. All that people who haven't seen Mav and Sucer play, see here is them randomly accusing each other of being bad teamplayers. I suppose you're both decent enough players, but fighting over it here can't be good for anyone. I could be wrong, but wouldn't it work better if you asked your opponents for a little time out during the game, then ask your teammate nicely to change some of his strategy? (for the record, saying "[censored] noob, be rts", and getting all mad because your opponent made a little mistake, is generally not considered to qualify as "nicely". It might not be exactly what happened in this case, I wouldn't know, but I do believe it's not uncommon).

As for people not finishing their matches... well, can't they just contact each other over e-mail, and arrange a time for all 4 of them to be online at the same time? I'd say that randomly waiting for 4 different people to be on simultaneously can take rather long.

Grytolle May 10, 2006 02:19 AM

E-mail sucks :D

R3ptile May 10, 2006 04:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grytolle
people who only play duels well are asocial beings, with no real friends =D

how did you come into that conclusion? besides, there are no "good team players", only good teams.

edit: back into topic, i'm thinking about cancelling the lower bracket matches because of the high amount of forfeit wins, so if anyone has any objection... post here!

Yasco May 10, 2006 05:25 AM

Cancel the lower brackets and I kill you =(

Grytolle May 10, 2006 05:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThA BLiNG BLiNG RaBBiT
Besides, there are no "good team players", only good teams.

There are no good duelists, only good duels!!!! Seriously, what do you mean?

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThA BLiNG BLiNG RaBBiT
back into topic, i'm thinking about cancelling the lower bracket matches because of the high amount of forfeit wins, so if anyone has any objection... post here!

Just let the forfeits have their way in the lower bracket.


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