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Dermo Sep 2, 2007 12:19 PM

Really bad puns? I disagree the carrot puns were pretty good.

Black Ninja Sep 2, 2007 05:59 PM

The best way to have something be funny is to include Fooruman.

References to "pop culture" within the JJ2 community that would be funny to anyone but uproarious to a community member would be the best way to go.

Dermo Sep 2, 2007 06:33 PM

No wait. We can't include too much community stuff. If we're going to include fooruman which is a really good idea, we would need to convert the flash files to ...avi? That's easy you just need to republish the fla file. And here's my idea to how the game COULD work.

Code:

New Game
-Single Player
-Party Mode
--Local Splitscreen
--Internet Connection for Online Play
--TCP/IP Lan Connection
--IPX/SPX Connection for Direct Play
--Serial Connection for Direct Play
--(whatever other available multiplayer functions/subfunctions)

Load Game

Options
-(all of whatever options you want)

Extras
-Development of JJ3D
-Storyline of Jazz Jackrabbit
-Foo Movies
-Credits

Throw in all of the fooruman videos in there and be sure to include an intro video explaining what fooruman is all about.

Also a cutscene in the beginning of JJ3D that shows the fooruman talking to Jazz and if the story line's going to be based on rescuing Lori who got captured, then have Jazz talking to the fooruman when Spaz runs up to jazz out of breath telling how Lori's been kidnapped. Then the fooruman vanishes leaving Jazz and Spaz alone to rescue Lori.

Also, under extras, the Storyline section should include where the game started, the development of j2o, the development of jazz 2 mods and the development of jj3d. That's my $0.02 everybody. Discuss!

Black Ninja Sep 2, 2007 09:13 PM

While I'm flattered that anyone other than me fantasizes has thought of Fooruman being in this (or any other JJ3) game, it's rather unlikely. Even though Fooruman and the universe revolving around him is all familiar to most of this community, it wouldn't make sense to anyone who hasn't been around here for a while.

On top of that, the Terexin sprite is owned by 3D Realms, and I know from experience that they're not likely to give it up for any amount of money.

As a side note, the Foo Movies already exist in uncompressed AVI form. There's even a limited edition Foo Movie DVD that Spoy and I made when we met at his house in 2005. No, such a DVD can never be legally distributed.

Xobim Sep 3, 2007 02:06 AM

Ambsoft being sued for including a sprite from a DOS game into their product...Sounds kinda funny.

As long as they're not selling the game and they've stated that Fooruman is owned by Fooproducts 3D Realms, everything should be fine.

cooba Sep 3, 2007 02:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xobim (Post 414131)
Ambsoft being sued for including a sprite from a DOS game into their product

Out of all the things said in this thread so far this one is the most likely to happen yet

Jerrythabest Sep 3, 2007 11:44 AM

Then draw your own sprite *sighs*

Dermo Sep 3, 2007 08:34 PM

lol at jerry's sigh! that's really gay we cant include fooruman. up yours copywrite laws. i may sound way too enthusiastic about a bunny game but its not right! (-) we should find something they did illegal and say if you sue us for copywrite violation, we'll arrest you for...

sometimes playing dirty and blackmail is the best way to do things. thats how i view it

n00b Sep 4, 2007 11:42 AM

Hey Drmoo, we could just draw a new Fooruman sprite that is similar to, but not actually, the Terexin sprite. The parody laws should allow it to slide by.

But instead of doing something that takes half an hour at the most, let's go out and protest copyright laws for a cameo from a character not even related to the bunny game the dispute is over and be moronic half-wit forms of hippies. Don't forget going to jail for attempting to blackmail and sabotage a corperation! BRILLIANT IDEA

Quote:

Originally Posted by Speeza (Post 413946)
cutscenes are needed in a game jerry it makes the story more intresting and remember the target audience is for ages younger.

That makes no god(-)ed sense considering that the target audience is this forum. I was not aware of all the four year olds we had at the JCF.

ShadeJackrabbit Sep 4, 2007 12:15 PM

What do you thinks been nibbling on your feet?

In all seriousness, I think the Foo Movies would be cool to include, but would be a dangerous idea. Don't forget you'd also have to change unfooruman, and most of the blocks.

n00b Sep 4, 2007 01:08 PM

Shade, are you actually this moronic or are you trying to push my buttons?

I'm pretty sure a company like ambesoftware would remember to do something like redraw everything else (which is such a dangerous process apparently, but I'm sure they're the renegades to do it), especially since the project is expected to hit some turbulence to begin with.

I am not disputing the coolness of Foo Products making a cameo appearence, I am disputing that there is no need to go to the lengths DrMoo has suggested to secure such an appearance (even if it "was" a "joke"), although apparently I'm wrong and everyone either thinks Ambesoftware is too stupid to have an artist redraw all the sprites to suit the parody laws or that the idea of redrawing the sprites is just plain impossible.

Black Ninja Sep 4, 2007 02:30 PM

The sprites have been redrawn thousands of times. While it's questionable, I'm fairly certain that in some cases something as simple as a recolor counts as a remake.

Anyway, while we'd all love Foo Products to be in the game somehow, that's (at this point) irrelevant. It's not our game to make, and even if it was it's only 1% done, so thinking this early about cameos and such would just be foolish.

Violet CLM Sep 4, 2007 03:01 PM

What is all this talk about the Terexin sprite? This is a 3D game. :( Even if there were foo movies for some bizarre reason, why would they be remotely sprite-based?

n00b Sep 4, 2007 03:17 PM

2d level design exists in 3d games, such as the Qwark levels in Ratchet and Clank 3.

Jerrythabest Sep 5, 2007 08:06 AM

2,5D has it all. Remember that discussion? That was awesome. I hope the next fool one to say "I'm making JJ3" makes it 2,5D. Jazz Jackrabbit is made as a 2D platformer and the only way to make it somewhat 3D without screwing up the whole gameplay (left right up down ;p) is by making it 2,5D.

Xobim Sep 5, 2007 08:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Unknown Rabbit (Post 414216)
What is all this talk about the Terexin sprite? This is a 3D game. :(

Fooruman is part of the Foo Movies, not the game. Ambesoft wants to keep the story based on the original JJ3 one. Besides, the terexin sprite wouldn't make any sense if it were to be included in the game.
In fact, adding the foo movies, which are more part of the community than the JJ universe, won't make much sense either.

Unless Ambesoft is considering to do anything with fooruman or the terexin sprite, we should keep Fooruman and JJ3 separated.

Jerrythabest Sep 5, 2007 08:35 AM

(By quoting UR's post you mean you agree with it? I don't really know why you quoted it otherwise ;p)

Anyway, I agreed on both of you.

Xobim Sep 5, 2007 09:11 AM

I'm adding a few words to what UR says. I agree with him.

n00b Sep 5, 2007 10:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xobim (Post 414246)
Fooruman is part of the Foo Movies, not the game. Ambesoft wants to keep the story based on the original JJ3 one. Besides, the terexin sprite wouldn't make any sense if it were to be included in the game.
In fact, adding the foo movies, which are more part of the community than the JJ universe, won't make much sense either.

Unless Ambesoft is considering to do anything with fooruman or the terexin sprite, we should keep Fooruman and JJ3 separated.

Two words- Unobtrusive cameo.

ShadeJackrabbit Sep 5, 2007 04:24 PM

Oh god n00b, can't you shut up?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by n00b (Post 414205)
Shade, are you actually this moronic or are you trying to push my buttons?

I'm pretty sure a company like ambesoftware would remember to do something like redraw everything else (which is such a dangerous process apparently, but I'm sure they're the renegades to do it), especially since the project is expected to hit some turbulence to begin with.

I am not disputing the coolness of Foo Products making a cameo appearence, I am disputing that there is no need to go to the lengths DrMoo has suggested to secure such an appearance (even if it "was" a "joke"), although apparently I'm wrong and everyone either thinks Ambesoftware is too stupid to have an artist redraw all the sprites to suit the parody laws or that the idea of redrawing the sprites is just plain impossible.

Dear god n00b, can I say anything without you violently lashing out at me?

Isn't it rather obvious that I'm reminding the rest of the forum members and not Ambesoftware? I don't think they're stupid, and I'd wish you'd get off my (-) with all these comments about me being stupid. I'm simply reminding people that Foomovies contain sprites not owned by Epic, and there is an almost null chance that the copyright owners would allow the original content in a game they would gain nothing from.

For a moron, I seem to understand things better than some people here, n00b.

Dermo Sep 6, 2007 02:15 PM

Actually the company would probably allow that. If people see the fooruman and go through the credits, they may actually say "oh look where this sprite came from! Let's play that game!"

We could be doing them a favor!

ShadeJackrabbit Sep 6, 2007 04:02 PM

Yeah, but I know that I for one do not go through the credits. I usually skip them or wait for them to be over, without reading them. Besides, I'm not sure what happened to Moonlite Software...

DoubleGJ Sep 6, 2007 10:34 PM

Well that's you. I always read credits, just to show respect to the people who made something I just watched or played.

Violet CLM Sep 7, 2007 12:39 AM

back to link-posting mode
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ShadeJackrabbit (Post 414302)
Besides, I'm not sure what happened to Moonlite Software...

Mike Voss interview.

Jerrythabest Sep 7, 2007 03:44 AM

Now that you are in link-posting mode, post a link to some place that shows me the first appearance of fooruman ever. Thanks! =D

Black Ninja Sep 7, 2007 08:49 AM

Do you want the first appearance of Fooruman (race 11), or do you want the first appearance of Terexin (hocus01)?

Jerrythabest Sep 7, 2007 11:26 AM

Both :D

Let's get ontopic in the meanwhile. So why would Fooruman ever be added to Jazz3?

Dermo Sep 7, 2007 01:30 PM

For humor!

Jerrythabest Sep 7, 2007 01:56 PM

They can use ontopic stuff for humor too! This weird man has nothing to do with JJ at all :/

Black Ninja Sep 7, 2007 05:38 PM

I'd like to say for the record that my original post about Fooruman being in JJ3 was a joke. That said, upon further thought I think it would actually be a pretty good idea.

The game clearly shouldn't just be a big community cameo-bag (if it's ever even finished, which is doubtful). However, having jokes/characters/etc from within the community (such as Fooruman, chickens, and possibly cornbread) would make the game more popular among its target audience (this forum).

Speeza Sep 7, 2007 09:51 PM

put me in the game XD , and ajazz. that would fit better :P

Dermo Sep 7, 2007 09:55 PM

Well if we put ajazz in the game, eventually, jazz would end up commiting suicide.

Xobim Sep 8, 2007 07:44 AM

Why not just a bonus episode with all sort of community jokes inside it? Just a community additions to the game.

Jerrythabest Sep 8, 2007 07:55 AM

That's a good idea.

KRSplat Sep 8, 2007 06:30 PM

Make AJazz the only playable character.

Ninja 101 Sep 14, 2007 04:17 AM

An interesting twist...
Devan is actually the underdog for a much more evil entity.

NovaStar Sep 14, 2007 02:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ninja 101 (Post 414832)
An interesting twist...
Devan is actually the underdog for a much more evil entity.

I cry.

Dermo Sep 14, 2007 08:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by krsplat
Make AJazz the only playable character.

[quote=drmoo]Well if we put ajazz in the game, eventually, jazz would end up commiting suicide.]

ThunderPX Sep 15, 2007 01:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ninja 101 (Post 414832)
An interesting twist...
Devan is actually the underdog for a much more evil entity.

What the...? This isn't Sonic the Hedgehog.

ShadeJackrabbit Sep 15, 2007 02:41 PM

Or any of the other overly cliched games with a similar idea to them...


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