Originally Posted by Unknown Rabbit (Post 459910)

I wasn't doubting their authenticity at all, I was just noting that you hadn't included the panel probably because it looked messed up if you were using that light a color instead of 0,0,0 for your mountains/the darkest point in the panel. It looks like you figured out what to fix, though.

Originally Posted by snzspeed (Post 459911)

well, the jj1 palette is quite limited and im still trying to learn how it works..

Originally Posted by snzspeed (Post 459909)

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Doublepost, sorry. here is a screenshot with the panel. :P

Originally Posted by CrimiClown (Post 459915)

You DO know that the 'cave' background looks seriously messed up, right? If you do, this post doesn't exist.

Originally Posted by DJazz (Post 462270)

I made this level in September and it's a 256x64-sized CTF level.
The concept here is that it's like CTF irl (almost). If you die on enemy side you'll end up in the enemy "jail". Your teammates can free you. There is also a coin+warp in the jail which act as the jail-timer. The level works for all three characters. I haven't played any big game here yet, only dueled betatesters. The level is not finished, needs some more eyecandy etc..
Some screens:

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Music: Starlight

Originally Posted by minmay (Post 463254)

You, um, realize that there are already levels utilizing the exact same system, right? Divide and Conquer, in particular.

Originally Posted by Sir Ementaler (Post 463300)

I love that your signature says: 'Epsiode 2:Coming 2009'.

Originally Posted by Speeza (Post 463313)

Sonic those screen-shots look interesting sensational and superbly amazing, I would love to see this realised some time soon.

Originally Posted by Toni (Post 463370)

I wanna make an example level for your tileset. If you agree of course :)

Originally Posted by minmay (Post 463376)

That Fanolint conversion has way too many extra tiles added on a whim. It looks like you actually took some tiles out to make room for your tiles - at that point it isn't really a conversion anymore, which is fine (FanolintV would be great, I'm sure), but the tiles you've added have very little substance - the few that aren't slight variations of existing tiles are just generic event tiles, unless you count the clouds/rain/hills that you took from other tilesets.

Some of your tiles are also missing shadows or have other such mistakes, most obviously the backgrounds on the plant tiles, though that could just because they're unfinished.

Originally Posted by SonicNathan 1 (Post 463552)

I never took anything out. Every tile form the original is here seriously, what is the downside to adding tiles?

Originally Posted by SonicNathan 1 (Post 463552)

Background of the plant tiles?

Originally Posted by minmay (Post 463557)

Fewer animated tile slots, and you're missing 87.5% of the fans' frames.
A more subjective disadvantage is that it clutters up the tileset. I'm fine with adding tiles to increase the flexibility of a tileset - indeed, I'd generally encourage it - but you've added tiles that don't increase flexibility at all, like all those plants. Somehow I doubt anyone's going to use those upside-down and sideways ones (especially since you didn't bother to change the glass shine). The "escaped" plants could look nice, but as-is they're just blatant copy-paste jobs.

And yes, I remember the PM you sent me telling me that I included too many (all) of the fan frames in my conversion.


The closed plant boxes have the distorted background (same as the circular lens tiles near the top). The broken ones have the regular background. The distorted background looks pretty weird in JJ2 in the first place, but mixing them both together like that is just strange.

Incidentally, my original plan was to get a textured background working that was close to the JJ1 distorted background, but I found it to be too much work.

Originally Posted by minmay (Post 463572)

When I referred to the shine, I wasn't referring to the distortion of the background, but to the white lines on the side of the glass. Their position should be independent of the boxes' rotation; the glass boxes aren't the light source, after all.

But since you brought up the background distortion: the tiles don't really indicate that the glass on the side is broken, just the top of the box. Adding an outline where the glass is broken (and distorted background behind the areas that still have glass, since that's what you'd expect) would be a good way to convey that. I also just realized that the background that's being distorted is different from the "normal" background in the first place (it's that tile in the bottom right).

Originally Posted by minmay (Post 463376)

It looks like you actually took some tiles out to make room for your tiles - at that point it isn't really a conversion anymore, which is fine (FanolintV would be great, I'm sure)