1st round matchup
 

I think the tightest game will be Sweden vs Belgium.

Poland vs Israel should own too. One question though, do you think slovenia will get pwned harder by Finland, or will the italians get ravaged even more by the Dutch?

ohh and, this is the message from the organisers:

There has been now... a slight change...
Every team faces every team once, not twice, which would take too long.
The first round pairs are as follows:

Australia - United Kingdom (Sat 17th, 14.00 GMT)
Belgium - Sweden (Sat 17th, 15.00 GMT)
Finland - Slovenia (Sat 17th, 16.00 GMT)
Germany - Romania (Sat 17th, 17.00 GMT)
Israel - Poland (Sat 17th, 18.00 GMT)
Italy - Netherlands (Sat 17th, 19.00 GMT)

-The host must log the match, that goes for all matches.
(Carrotade is recommended)
-If the above times don't work, u may postpone your matches, but really try you best to play them before sunday evening, will ya?
-Anyone both teams can agree on may host the matches.
Official hosts include me, Sasik and Vegito (Though he doesn't seem too motivated.)
-Each match is best out of 3 rounds (which are to 5 points, each!). Teams can agree on which team chooses their level in the first round and which in the second.
If there are disagreements, the alphabetically first team chooses first.
The third round may be played in any mappool level both teams can agree on.
Again, if there's no agreement, it will be played in a standard level, such as Semi, BBlair or JE.
-Whichever team is blue in the first round will be red in the second. The third round team colors may be agreed on. If agreement isn't made, the team that has the worse score difference till then may choose their team color.

Thanks Urbs, for everything. :D

EDIT: and yes, u will get pwned... in a gentle way :p
EDIT2: And you're hereby a tournament official for reminding me about that, thank you very much. :P

National Cup Games
 

Round 1

Australia - United Kingdom (Sat 17th, 14.00 GMT)
Belgium - Sweden (Sat 17th, 15.00 GMT)
Finland - Slovenia (Sat 17th, 16.00 GMT)
Germany - Romania (Sat 17th, 17.00 GMT)
Israel - Poland (Sat 17th, 18.00 GMT)
Italy - Netherlands (Sat 17th, 19.00 GMT)

-The host must log the match, that goes for all matches.
(Carrotade is recommended)

-If the above times don't work, u may postpone your matches, but really try you best to play them before sunday evening, will ya?

-Anyone both teams can agree on may host the matches.
Official hosts include me, Sasik and Vegito (Though he doesn't seem too motivated.)

-Each match is best out of 3 rounds (which are to 5 points, each!). Teams can agree on which team chooses their level in the first round and which in the second.
If there are disagreements, the alphabetically first team chooses first.
The third round may be played in any mappool level both teams can agree on.
Again, if there's no agreement, it will be played in a standard level, such as Semi, BBlair or JE.

-Whichever team is blue in the first round will be red in the second. The third round team colors may be agreed on. If agreement isn't made, the team that has the worse score difference till then may choose their team color.

i hope that doesnt mean i have to host, cuz my connection doesnt rock...
I can help when i have time but that isnt often im afraid.

No not a host nor does it bind you to do anything. Just because u did something to assist with the organization, I named u an official. U have no new tasks though. Unless you'd like to. :)

I'll already have to postpone the match from the Netherlands if I can't get anyone else to play.
I won't be online pretty much the entire saturday evening, because of a birthday. Not an unusual birthday either, someone turns 50. I already agreed at going there, so they expect me.

(So maybe DS, Chiyu and Ani can play? =P Or Quickz, whatever. I'll make sure the Dutchies are notified about my problem.)

SORRY FOR PUTTING YOU LAST QUICKZ BUT I LOVE YOU TOO! -

That's too bad Veg. Oh but do have a good time.
Thanks a lot for 'replacing yourself' anyways, lol. :P

My predictions :

Australia - United Kingdom - won't be played

Belgium - Sweden - If Sweden shows up , it will be interesting game

Finland - Slovenia - Finland

Germany - Romania - Won't be played

Italy - Netherlands - I'd bet on The Netherlands but Italy's rossters have improved a lot lately so it might be very interesting game

good morning

my predictions (assuming all matches are played):

Australia - United Kingdom United Kingdom
Belgium - Sweden Belgium
Finland - Slovenia Finland
Germany - Romania Germany
Israel - Poland Poland
Italy - Netherlands Netherlands

edit: we don't get it, though... does this work like Chippie's JJ2WC III? if one team wins by 5-4 then losses by 5-1, then a third, tie-breaker round is played? if one team wins both rounds then a third round is not needed, right? this is what "best of three levels" means, anyways.

uhm ya exactly, if one team wins in 2 rounds, is the 3rd needed?

ohh and, why is every1 betting against us? I mean, team slovenia is like: hell yeah!

I think it is based on rounds, not scores. But it would be nice to see how Emp understands BO3.

Just so you guys know, i still havent been able to contact any1 from team slovenia, so the way things stand now, we won't make it...
Hopefully that will change by 4 pm GMT.

Another question, is 4pm GMT 5pm CET or 3 pm CET?

@urbs: 5pm

there's a new irc channel where you can discuss about teams, matches and get LIVE reports at #jj2.nationscup

Australia - United Kingdom: United Kingdom
Belgium - Sweden: Belgium
Finland - Slovenia: Finland
Germany - Romania: Germany
Israel - Poland: Poland
Italy - Netherlands: Netherlands

This would be the most logical, but maybe there will be some surprises.

couldn't you just quote my reply :D

I have merged Wallace's result thread with this one, for they serve the same purpose. Please do not open seperate threads for every round, but use this thread for discussing the results of all rounds instead.

If our team plays, finland is as good as dead...

That's about 2am in Australia, who would want to play that early?????
22.00 GMT would be better.

Rep, there's already a site for that...
It will be finished momentarily...

@ Few people: When it's best of three rounds, it means rounds, not scores.

@ Stijn: Would you mind not closing my threads about this when I'm the cup admin? I'd pretty much appreciate it.

@ PJ: Yes, that's better, thank you.

Post match results here, thanks.

@ Wallace: I close (actually, I meged them) threads that serve exactly the same purpose other threads that have some active discussion going on. Whether you are cup admin or not is irrelevant.

German - Romaina
 

Nice game haha joke!

Ionatz's Graphic card doesn't work so Jazz2 doesn't work.

so German team won this round?

poles won?

on a side note, i think it was quite dumb to put two of the best teams against each other already in the beginning.

Yeah, don't you see it? I'll write it then maybe a bit more clearly than R3p ;P

[IMG]http://images.clanbase.com/il.gif[/IMG] Israel vs [IMG]http://images.clanbase.com/pl.gif[/IMG] Poland

Teams:
[IMG]http://images.clanbase.com/il.gif[/IMG] Israel: AvK, R3ptile, SkulL (always blue)
[IMG]http://images.clanbase.com/pl.gif[/IMG] Poland: Maverick, Sasik, Sperry (always red)

1st Round:
Map: Bloodbunny's Lair
Host: [IMG]http://images.clanbase.com/nl.gif[/IMG] DarkSonic
Score: [IMG]http://images.clanbase.com/il.gif[/IMG] ISR vs [IMG]http://images.clanbase.com/pl.gif[/IMG] POL 5-0
Well, Israel chose BBlair. From the start it was really bad game for us. We did many stupid mistakes + also some lags and 3hk's (especially for Mav) did what they always do ;) Israel was better, imo.

2nd Round:
Map: Happy Semiconductor CTF
Host: [IMG]http://images.clanbase.com/nl.gif[/IMG] DarkSonic
Score: [IMG]http://images.clanbase.com/il.gif[/IMG] ISR vs [IMG]http://images.clanbase.com/pl.gif[/IMG] POL 3-5
Again, we were losing at the beginning but then made nice comeback and won. Semi was our choice, btw.

3rd Round:
Map: Diamondus Warzone
Host: [IMG]http://images.clanbase.com/nl.gif[/IMG] DarkSonic
Score: [IMG]http://images.clanbase.com/il.gif[/IMG] ISR vs [IMG]http://images.clanbase.com/pl.gif[/IMG] POL 0-5
We wanted to do other level, but R3p insisted to play DW, so we agreed. It looks like we were just better and won without many problems.

Overall: [IMG]http://images.clanbase.com/il.gif[/IMG] ISR vs [IMG]http://images.clanbase.com/pl.gif[/IMG] POL 1-2 (8-10)
GG I must say. The games were quite exciting. Also, I'd like to thank my team for nice victory. GJ. Thanks goes too to DS for hosting all games, personally I didn't have any problems with the server, though.
However, overall it's quite disappointing that only one match were played today. I hope you will announce the pairs for the next round asap, Emp.

Ugh, I hate multireplying, but what's a dood to do...

@ Stijn: Never mind, good idea. :/

@ Hatebreed: If Ionut can't play tomorrow (18th Feb), you get a forfeit win.

@ Rep: I chose the first round draw to be this weekend, for testing purposes, that's why it is how it is. The next draw will be on monday and will last for that week. Also, every team will face every team, so it hardly matters did you face Poland now or on round 9. The teams were chosen by random anyway, by a program.

@ Sasik: Yes, the next round draw will be on monday and will last for the week or till all games have been played (and forfeit wins given).

Question! :
Should there be CTF events, where the country of every participating player gets about 20 % as many points as a team gets for a ctf match win? (with max: 3 players / country, maybe?)
Just a wicked idea, answer:p

Newsflash! -point system- (which can be changed later...)

-CTF match win: 5 points
-CTF match loss: 1 point
-CTF match forfeit win: 3 points (?)
(-CTF event win: 1 point / player [max 3 players / country]) (?)


EDIT: And way to go Poland. With that you've momentarily seized the lead. :P

Poland<3

(-)(-)(-)? No. This is not JDC. This is just a 3vs3 CTF Tournament.
No. Forfeit win have to give the same number of points as normal victory.
Rather like this:
1 Match win = Forfeit win = 3 points.
1 Round won in a match = 1 point.
1 Match loss = 0 points.

ok whatelse... When is the 2nd round. German team is a bit boarded because we pass without a game with Romania ;/

@HB & Emp: You should try to organize that game (Germany vs Romania). Like the others one too. Emp simply said about the pairs too late. Give people time to play one game.

dude why don't you use your brain? it does matter a lot, you should give teams time to prepare themselves and get into the tourney, especially for a rusty team like us.

ok Israel's comments for the match vs. Poland

1st round in BBLAIR: everything went perfect, just like we used to pwn few years ago. 5-0

2nd round in Semi: we were leading by 3-0 (untill that point we've already had an overall 8-0 lead!). can't even explain in words how (-) we are, the match simply ran out of our hands. with JJ2WC rules we would've won, too. 3-5

3rd round in DW: well we were already broken and things just didn't go our way. we roasted them a lot more times but didn't even manage to get on the right timing and score even one point. 0-5

overall those were really nice, though quite disappointing games. gj for the poles and good luck in the future! we'll hopefully keep improving, untill we reach the performance level of the first and half of the second round without messing things up (we should've won both rounds by 5-0 ;|)

match stats
 

Roasts

BBlair Semi DW

R3ptile 7 33 18 = 58
AvK 8 14 9 = 31
Skull 11 17 12 = 40

Maverick 8 33 8 = 49
Sasik 7 16 8 = 31
Sperry 9 24 10 = 43


Scores

R3ptile 3 1 0 = 4
AvK 1 1 0 = 2
Skull 1 1 0 = 2

Maverick 0 0 1 = 1
Sasik 0 1 2 = 3
Sperry 0 4 2 = 6


Flagcarrier kills

R3ptile 5 7 3 = 15
AvK 4 5 7 = 16
Skull 3 6 5 = 14

Maverick 2 7 7 = 16
Sasik 4 8 4 = 16
Sperry 3 6 2 = 11

KEY KILLS

R3ptile 1 2 0 = 3
AvK 2 1 0 = 3
Skull 2 0 0 = 2

Maverick 0 2 3 = 5
Sasik 0 1 2 = 3
Sperry 0 2 0 = 2

on a side note, all match logs should be directed to mave so he can make stats and also "top roasters" and "top scorers" lists (there'd be awards in the end of the tourney too)

I think it's a good idea to make scoring rules before the tourney starts.

Wohoo! Mav owned the game<33333

huh? you just say it because he's in your clan.. but i did :p

From what it seems you had a lot of kills that didn't lead to a score, isn't that kind of useless? :(

Honestly saying, imho, Sperry was the player of the match (MVP =D).
However, I don't think it changes anything. =p

dang, looks like team slovenia will have 2 forfeit..