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Fawriel Nov 6, 2004 11:08 AM

Any Linux experts around?
 
Erm. Yo.
I currently have Linux installed on my PC, but I want to install Windows as well so I can play JJ2.
Of course, I still have my mother and her partner to help me install it, but they're not online a lot recently, so.. yeah.
If it's of any help, my Linux distribution is Simply Mepis 2004, my harddrive is mounted at hdd, my root partition is hdd8, I think...
Help would be muchly appreciated.

Link Nov 6, 2004 11:17 AM

You need to have a separate partition for Windows. Do you have one, or is the entire drive used for Linux partitions? Or do you have more than one drive? /dev/hdd usually corresponds to the fourth hard drive.

You can run the command "fdisk -l /dev/hdd" (that's a lowercase 'L', not an uppercase 'i') to see a list of all the partitions on /dev/hdd. The command "df" will list all the currently mounted partitions/devices, and the file /etc/fstab should list all the partitions/devices with mount points.

Hazel-rah Nov 6, 2004 11:17 AM

Rule of thumb. Install order should go:

DOS
Windows 95
Windows 98
Windows ME
Windows NT
Windows 2000
Windows XP
Linux

The Microsoft bootloader does not support Linux. The Linux bootloader does support Windows/DOS.

Therefore Windows should be installed before Linux. If you have extra space on the Linux drive for some reason, or if you have another blank hard drive it is possible to install Windows and then come back and restore the Linux bootloader. I don't know how to do that, though. Especially since I never heard of that version of Linux before...

Newspaz Nov 6, 2004 12:09 PM

That's quite easy Conker. You just boot by using a Linux bootdisk. Mount the original Linux partition, make it your system root. And run the command "lilo". But that obviously only works when you use the Lilo bootloader. I don't exactly know how GRUB works, but it shouldn't be a lot harder.

I am writing a tutorial on how to run JJ2 in Wine. Maybe you'll be interested...

Fawriel Nov 8, 2004 12:08 PM

Sorry for the late reply, my browser died when I typed one before.

Newspaz, I would be VERY interested indeed! But would that also allow me to make levels?

And... Link, thank you a lot. But apparently, mother has a "surprise" for me and doesn't want me to install Windows... eh. *shrugs* o_o;;

Hazel-rah Nov 8, 2004 02:42 PM

...

And what does your mother know about computers?

All computers should have Windows on them.

Kaz Nov 8, 2004 09:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ConkerHS
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And what does your mother know about computers?

All computers should have Windows on them.


Hmm? A machine running Linux only and the closest thing is WineX simply for jj2? I don't see anything wrong with that ;).

And I think Faw's mom was the one that installed everything on there, the multiple paritions over several hard drives with Linux. That's quite a mother.

Hazel-rah Nov 8, 2004 09:30 PM

Well, I can understand her not wanting her to do it because she doesn't know how to do the bootloader/partition stuff.... better to have a working OS than two non-working OSes I guess....

Windows is a must whether you think Wine is a solution or not. It doesn't solve everything.

Fawriel Nov 8, 2004 10:07 PM

Eh. My mother is quite the AT crack.
And Kaz, I'm SO going to show your reply to her. ^__^

Newspaz Nov 9, 2004 10:43 AM

Quote:

Newspaz, I would be VERY interested indeed! But would that also allow me to make levels?
Yeah sure. The whole thing. But it will be a tad slower.

Newspaz Nov 9, 2004 10:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kaz
Hmm? A machine running Linux only and the closest thing is WineX simply for jj2? I don't see anything wrong with that ;).

And I think Faw's mom was the one that installed everything on there, the multiple paritions over several hard drives with Linux. That's quite a mother.

JJ2 can run perfectly well in Linux with just plain Wine.

Fawriel Nov 9, 2004 11:02 AM

Yay! ^__^ Thanks in advance, man! *tackles*

Dusk Nov 11, 2004 02:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ConkerHS
All computers should have Windows on them.

There's also this thing called a MAC [sic] that some weirdos use. And they don't have Windows installed, I've seen their computers! :P

Stijn Nov 11, 2004 06:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ConkerHS
Well, I can understand her not wanting her to do it because she doesn't know how to do the bootloader/partition stuff.... better to have a working OS than two non-working OSes I guess....

Windows is a must whether you think Wine is a solution or not. It doesn't solve everything.

indeed, women know nothing about pc's! GO MEN!

[img]http://www.insidegamer.nl/forum/images/smiles/icon_duh.gif[/img]

Kaz Nov 11, 2004 05:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ConkerHS
Well, I can understand her not wanting her to do it because she doesn't know how to do the bootloader/partition stuff.... better to have a working OS than two non-working OSes I guess....

Windows is a must whether you think Wine is a solution or not. It doesn't solve everything.

I have no idea what I'd do if I didn't have my security vunerabilities and software-only-for-windows on my linux box ;(.

Chances are, she knows how to use loadlin to access the linux kernel and re-run a LILO configuration with Windows in mind. And if she doesn't, Faw just learnt how to get rid of that "rule of thumb" limitation.

Hazel-rah Apr 21, 2005 11:01 AM

I know this is kind of unrelated... but it was an interesting find, nonetheless.

Instructions on how to install Win9x after WinNT:

http://www.petri.co.il/install_windo...windows_xp.htm

Well, I'm glad I finally found instructions for that... I want Windows 98 for legacy appzzzzz.

Leporidae Apr 24, 2005 08:02 PM

I could see why your mom dosen't want to install windows (in my dad's theory) because windows (sometimes) like to do this:
[img]http://bestsmileys.com/computer1/17.gif[/img]
but don't let that stop you because it never happen to me before. I feel your pain. Good luck geting windows back!


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