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ThunderPX Apr 2, 2005 11:09 AM

Jazz Jackrabbit: Unofficial Soundtrack
 
I'm working on an unofficial soundtrack for Jazz 1 and 2, by optimizing the quality and converting them in foobar2000 using foo_dumb. (It can play PSMs properly =D) Only problem is, I'm not sure whether all JJ2 songs are available for ripping (I don't think foo_Dumb can play j2b) and I'm not sure whether I even have them all on my personal list...

LittleFreak Apr 2, 2005 11:12 AM

So, you're asking for mod/s3m/whatever format versions of JJ1/2 songs?

aokmaniac13 Apr 2, 2005 11:21 AM

Older versions of JJ2 will have the music as normal s3ms, which are on my website in a zip file.
Click the pic in my sig.

Edit: Whoops! It's a .RAR file, not .ZIP, my bad.

FoxBlitzz Apr 2, 2005 11:32 AM

To get the original JJ1 songs, all you have to do is open the .p3m files in a mod editing program like ModPlug Tracker.

Edit: Err... nevermind.

ThunderPX Apr 2, 2005 11:57 PM

LittleFreak: JJ2, yes. It being j2b, and all.

aokmaniac13: I'll give it a look.

EvilMonkey: You would do well by reading the entire post.

LittleFreak Apr 3, 2005 12:02 AM

I guess EvilMonkey's method also works for the JJ2 songs. ;)

You could try Lori Central too, but I see it's unavailable at the moment.

ThunderPX Apr 3, 2005 12:16 AM

I got the bunch of them when I remembered the URL to Monolith's server :P Still, your site had a few cool other songs, which gave me the idea to make this 'The Unofficial Epic Soundtrack'.

Unless, of course, that name is uber-sucky.

LittleFreak Apr 3, 2005 12:17 AM

That name is uber-sucky!

Why not? ;)

ThunderPX Apr 3, 2005 12:23 AM

Here's the games I will include anyway:
Jazz Jackrabbit 1/2/3[B] [<-- possibly Advance, but that wasn't epic...]
Electro Man [yeah, it only had one song, so what? :P]
Epic Pinball
Silverball
Unreal Tournament

I know I've missed out a load of games, but I can't really remember any memorable tunes from them. Any suggestions are welcome.

LittleFreak Apr 3, 2005 12:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaThunderPX
Epic Pinball
Silverball

=O

I loved those back in the days when I had DOS installed on my computer. ^_^

Can't remember the music though.

ThunderPX Apr 3, 2005 12:35 AM

I have Silverball on my PC currently, but I can't find Epic Pinball anywhere, so if anyone would pass me the PSMs...

Also, I was thinking of looping the songs twice, then fading, but appearantly, foobar doesn't convert the looping to OGG, so I'll have to find some other way of doing that.

EDIT: D'oh! How'd I forget Tyrian?! Anyway, there wouldn't be enough space on a 80min CD to fit Jazz 1 and 2 on, so I'm seeing if there are any other games that would fit after Jazz 1 so Jazz 2 could be on a second disc.

JelZe GoldRabbit Apr 3, 2005 01:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaThunderPX
Here's the games I will include anyway:
Jazz Jackrabbit 1/2/3[B] [<-- possibly Advance, but that wasn't epic...]
Electro Man [yeah, it only had one song, so what? :P]
Epic Pinball
Silverball
Unreal Tournament

I know I've missed out a load of games, but I can't really remember any memorable tunes from them. Any suggestions are welcome.

I can help you with the musics, I've collected the Jazz game music, plus Epic Pinball (the only thing missing is the original Enigma) and Silverball, in either .psm, .s3m or .it format. Mind you I have two sets of Jazz2 music: the beta music which was available on Lori Central, and the OEM music from Monolith's server, which has some minor differences with the retail versions. If you're interested I can zip all of them, and probably act as "Quality Control", specifically for Stonar and Sluggion, since some samples are either lost or unplayable.

Hey, being a packrat comes in handy :p

- JelZe GoldRabbit =:3

ThunderPX Apr 3, 2005 03:25 AM

Here's the stuff I have:

- Jazz 1 S3Ms from Monolith (I can't find my CD so I can use the original PSMs :\)
- Jazz 2 LC version in case there's a 'lost song' I can add as a bonus
- Jazz 2 OEM version
- Jazz 3 MODs from Monolith.
- Tyrian MIDIs ripped straight from the game (Using HyperCanvas and converting... =D)
- Unreal Tournament original game files (I have the game, go figure)
- Silverball PSMs
- One Must Fall PSMs
- ElectroMan MP3

I need:
- Jazz 1 fixed songs if Monolith's aren't right
- Jazz 2 final songs (you said there were a few differences in the OEM one)
- Epic Pinball PSMs


I can think of a few more Epic games, but IMO, the music wasn't that good, so I'm leaving them out for now.

aokmaniac13 Apr 3, 2005 05:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaThunderPX
Here's the stuff I have:

- Jazz 1 S3Ms from Monolith (I can't find my CD so I can use the original PSMs :\)
- Jazz 2 LC version in case there's a 'lost song' I can add as a bonus
- Jazz 2 OEM version
- Jazz 3 MODs from Monolith.
- Tyrian MIDIs ripped straight from the game (Using HyperCanvas and converting... =D)
- Unreal Tournament original game files (I have the game, go figure)
- Silverball PSMs
- One Must Fall PSMs
- ElectroMan MP3

I need:
- Jazz 1 fixed songs if Monolith's aren't right
- Jazz 2 final songs (you said there were a few differences in the OEM one)
- Epic Pinball PSMs


I can think of a few more Epic games, but IMO, the music wasn't that good, so I'm leaving them out for now.

I have only the Epic Pinball songs from the demo, I can give you those if you need them.
Also, I can zip up the Jazz1 PSMs for you really quick, including the two 1995 holiday tracks.

Edit: What about Extreme pinball?

ThunderPX Apr 3, 2005 05:35 AM

Give me the Jazz ones, I'll look for Epic Pinball myself as I need the full version :P

Disc 1 will consist of Jazz 1, One Must Fall 2097 and ElectroMan.

Disc 2 isn't certain yet, but will at least have Jazz 2 on it.

aokmaniac13 Apr 3, 2005 05:38 AM

http://www.newwavemugen.com/~aokmani...c/Jazz1PSM.rar

I'll make a link to it on my site some other time :P

Baggers Apr 3, 2005 05:51 AM

Sorry to jump into this thread but would you guys know a free converter for the Jazz2 music files, i need to convert them to mp3 or wav.

ThunderPX Apr 3, 2005 05:52 AM

Calculated the Epic Pinball times. Disc 2 will contain Jazz 2 and Epic Pinball. I originally wanted both Pinball games on the same disc, but meh. Oh, and Extreme Pinball doesn't run in DOSbox, so if somebody can give me the music with the names and correct order...

EDIT: Downloaded the PSMs. I can't see any difference between the two Sluggion songs (except for the playback quality; go foo_dumb!) So if anyone can point out which sample doesn't work...

aokmaniac13 Apr 3, 2005 05:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Baggers
Sorry to jump into this thread but would you guys know a free converter for the Jazz2 music files, i need to convert them to mp3 or wav.

Modplug Tracker can do it.

ThunderPX Apr 3, 2005 06:02 AM

See edit to my above post...

EDIT: Actually, Modplug Tracker can only do that with the TSF files. It can NOT open .j2b files.

Baggers Apr 3, 2005 06:06 AM

Brilliant, downloading it now, thanks alot !


Works like a charm...well that music is going in game now !

ThunderPX Apr 3, 2005 06:31 AM

What the hell?! I just downloaded it and it couldn't open j2b.

Stormie Apr 3, 2005 06:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aokmaniac13
Modplug Tracker can do it.

Where can I find this Modplug out of interest?

Baggers Apr 3, 2005 06:34 AM

j2b ?...im using it to open s3m files to convert them into mp3's

You can get modtracker from here
http://www.mplanet.it/software/modplugt.zip

MegaJazz Apr 3, 2005 06:41 AM

I know Modplug is the best mod player/tracker around now. I also know that the mod system is something old..

ThunderPX Apr 3, 2005 06:44 AM

But j2b is the one used for most JJ2 music. Unless of course, you're using the OEM version, which has different music in some places.

EDIT: I keep forgetting to add stuff >_< I need some help on UT, because there's just too many music, I have no idea what to call them and what a correct order would be.

MegaJazz Apr 3, 2005 06:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaThunderPX
But j2b is the one used for most JJ2 music. Unless of course, you're using the OEM version, which has different music in some places.

Wasn't j2b just a changed version of .s3m made especially for Jazz2?

ThunderPX Apr 3, 2005 06:50 AM

Yeah, but it's more then just a changed extension. There's a tool to convert them, but appearantly it's illegal to distribute or something like that.

MegaJazz Apr 3, 2005 06:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaThunderPX
Yeah, but it's more then just a changed extension. There's a tool to convert them, but appearantly it's illegal to distribute or something like that.

I once saw a thread on this forum where somebody found a program to play and convert .j2b with. But it sadly was Linux only.

Alberto Apr 3, 2005 07:09 AM

MegaJazz, it was me who found that tool, and at all, I found another for Windows, but neither the Linux tool or the Windows one play the .j2b files from the game, I suppose .j2b is another music format too which isn't only the one from the game.

ThunderPX Apr 3, 2005 07:09 AM

Well, Disc 3 seems to be slightly too long, but maybe I can fit it by slightly editing the songs so that silence at the start and endings is removed. Or maybe those few seconds don't really matter and it fits on anyway ;p

MegaJazz Apr 3, 2005 07:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alberto
MegaJazz, it was me who found that tool, and at all, I found another for Windows, but neither the Linux tool or the Windows one play the .j2b files from the game, I suppose .j2b is another music format too which isn't only the one from the game.

But the format .j2b looks Jazzy.. Can you also tell me more about the Jazz1 music file format .psm?

ThunderPX Apr 3, 2005 07:28 AM

It's basically just a really, really old module format, which is similar to S3M, but not quite the same. There are two versions of PSM, the 'old' one and the 'new' one (according to Foo_Dumb)
Modplug can't play the old ones (Silverball uses them), and the new ones play, but some don't play right (in other words, use foobar)

Sonyk Apr 3, 2005 07:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaThunderPX
EDIT: D'oh! How'd I forget Tyrian?!

I'm kinda late in saying this, but Tyrian isn't really an Epic game... Even though they spent a big part in helping it become as popular as it is now(or was). But, it's a World Tree Games... game....

MegaJazz Apr 3, 2005 07:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaThunderPX
It's basically just a really, really old module format, which is similar to S3M, but not quite the same. There are two versions of PSM, the 'old' one and the 'new' one (according to Foo_Dumb)
Modplug can't play the old ones (Silverball uses them), and the new ones play, but some don't play right (in other words, use foobar)

I know Modplug can open the PSM files from Jazz1 though. But is the file format really unsupported now?

n00b Apr 3, 2005 08:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaThunderPX
But j2b is the one used for most JJ2 music. Unless of course, you're using the OEM version, which has different music in some places.

EDIT: I keep forgetting to add stuff >_< I need some help on UT, because there's just too many music, I have no idea what to call them and what a correct order would be.

NEWS:
It's official, Baggers only has the OEM version.
News source- His thread on his 3d Jazz 2 game.

ThunderPX Apr 3, 2005 08:36 AM

Sonyk: I s'pose, but still...

MegaJazz: According to people, some samples in Sluggion and Stonar are wrong in ModPlug, and the Epic Pinball menu song is just totally screwed up.

aokmaniac13 Apr 3, 2005 12:00 PM

I don't even bother with PSMs. I use Chronos' module convertor to turn PSMs into S3Ms and it works perfectly.
You can find it here
www.omfuniverse.tk

ThunderPX Apr 3, 2005 12:02 PM

Silverball is basically a commercially distributed version of Epic Pinball, with a slightly different engine and different levels.

aokmaniac13 Apr 3, 2005 01:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ElectroPiZZa
It is a known fact that Modplug messes up PSM files horribly. One common problem is that it seems to like to move rows in patterns around randomly in some songs for no reason at all (Languacious, Epic Pinball theme song, every Extreme Pinball song).

Modplug only plays the new PSM format.

As for the Extreme Pinball songs, they are specially formatted to work with the game's dynamic music system, but I know how to piece together the parts to make it into an actual song.


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