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Tubz Apr 19, 2005 06:56 PM

1.23 vs. 1.24
 
What's better? I like 1.23 better, I think 1.24 is mostly a useless addon that should've been free or just the features should have just been implented into 1.23

blurredd Apr 19, 2005 07:19 PM

I prefer playing 1.23 mostly because that's where all of the more experienced players are. But that's based on the communities and not the games themselves. Technically 1.24 is better, although it includes Lori. Then again, no one says I have to play as Lori. Therefore, I voted TSF.

Violet CLM Apr 19, 2005 10:00 PM

TSF has another playable character, six new enemies, bigger tilesets, random bug fixes, higher episode support, and it may be better for saving in large levels or something. It's hard not to vote for it, technically-wise.
PLAYER-wise, I don't know, I don't feel like staying up until 5 AM to see some TSF players and figure out what they're like.

Marine1969 Apr 20, 2005 03:09 AM

I've never played TSF.

Jo Li KMC Apr 20, 2005 03:38 AM

What UR said. Or to summarize on a more personal note. . . Two words. "Lori" "Jackrabbit".

LittleFreak Apr 20, 2005 04:28 AM

Depends. I hate the TSF levels, they're so boring. The original Episodes were much more enjoyable.

Technically, TSF is better though, and when downloading SP stuff I usually play with TSF.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Violet
TSF has six new enemies

Since when?

Sonyk Apr 20, 2005 04:42 AM

TSF wasn't much of an expansion pack, per se.

The game itself is better (TSF) mainly for all the points stated above. And, I don't mind Lori. So, TSF for me.

Stijn Apr 20, 2005 07:24 AM

If you ask which one is better, it's TSF. If you ask which one is more played by "better" players, it's 1.23. Too bad some of us misread the question as my second version.

White Rabbit Apr 20, 2005 07:26 AM

TSF because there's no reason why, if everyone had it, the whole community should be based on TSF only.

DoubleGJ Apr 20, 2005 07:40 AM

Like i said before...

1.23 multiplayer > 1.24 multiplayer
1.23 singleplayer < 1.24 singleplayer

Your choice depends on game mode tastes.

Stijn Apr 20, 2005 08:14 AM

Why is TSF MP>1.23 MP? Assuming you don't mean the amount of players/good players playing 1.23 instead of TSF.

DoubleGJ Apr 20, 2005 08:20 AM

Nonono. I wrote 1.23 MP>TSF MP. So 1.23 MP is better. TSF SP is better. yes, I am certain I wrote that.

Apr 20, 2005 09:17 AM

tsf, for all reasons stated above, the only thing that keeps 1.23 alive is the "l33t" players who think tsf is for noobs. sometimes i hate em so those "uberl33t" people... (mainly because they make "rules" and make fun of you if you dont keep by their standards... )

DarkSonic Apr 20, 2005 09:44 AM

So maybe TSF is better, but 1.23 has more interesting players than 1.24, and the JCS for 1.23 is much better. A level made in 1.23 JCS can be played in both versions, and not vice-versa.

Sasik Apr 20, 2005 09:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by White Rabbit
the whole community should be based on TSF only.

IDD.

Blackraptor Apr 20, 2005 10:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Unknown Rabbit
TSF has another playable character, six new enemies, bigger tilesets, random bug fixes, higher episode support, and it may be better for saving in large levels or something. It's hard not to vote for it, technically-wise.
PLAYER-wise, I don't know, I don't feel like staying up until 5 AM to see some TSF players and figure out what they're like.

I agree with Violet. TSF has everything 1.23 has and more, just pretty much almost everyone playing it is european.

PhAyzoN Apr 20, 2005 11:44 AM

Single Player: TSF cuz it has new levels and features and fixes etc
Multi Player: 1.23 because people usually host these things called Levels, which have yet to be introduced to the 6 year olds of TSF.

Sonyk Apr 20, 2005 11:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex
tsf, for all reasons stated above, the only thing that keeps 1.23 alive is the "l33t" players who think tsf is for noobs. sometimes i hate em so those "uberl33t" people... (mainly because they make "rules" and make fun of you if you dont keep by their standards... )

Where did you hear this? For some time, I played MP in TSF only, until I realized how laggy 1.23 servers became with TSF players.

MSB3000 Apr 20, 2005 01:24 PM

im confused. i think i have tsf, but i dont know.

was there a demo tsf? i think i may have that.

i dont know :confused:

*EVIL*

Marine1969 Apr 20, 2005 01:54 PM

I'd never heard of TSF until I came on this forum.

Sonyk Apr 20, 2005 04:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marine1969
I'd never heard of TSF until I came on this forum.

That would be due to the fact that TSF was never released in North America. Go figure. You can still get it online, in some rare places, or download it illegally. But, don't do the last thing.

Violet CLM Apr 20, 2005 06:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LittleFreak
Since when?

Xmas Lizard, Xmas Turtle, Xmas Float Lizard, Xmas Bilsy, Kitty Katt, Pacman Ghost?

LittleFreak Apr 21, 2005 04:09 AM

You can't really call the xmas dudes new enemies I think (they just look different), but I won't argue with you about that. :)

EDIT:

The Kitten (how I like to call it :P ) isn't really different either, and the Pacman Ghost acts like the Sparks enemy, with the difference that it has two hitpoints instead of one.

Marine1969 Apr 21, 2005 04:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sonyk
That would be due to the fact that TSF was never released in North America. Go figure. You can still get it online, in some rare places, or download it illegally. But, don't do the last thing.

North America? I'm in England.

cooba Apr 21, 2005 05:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MSB3000
was there a demo tsf? i think i may have that.

Yeah, there is.

DoubleGJ Apr 21, 2005 06:53 AM

Contains Shareware Demo episode and two The Secret Files levels in the TSF episode (which is no way remade for the demo): Ghostly Antics and Turtle Town. Plus shareware multiplayer levels.

Violet CLM Apr 21, 2005 10:20 AM

They may have the same behavior, but there was a great deal of repeating behaviors in JJ1, and those were still different enemies. It's not like there's much difference anyway between, say, Lizards, Tuf Turtles, Skeletons or Crabs.

White Rabbit Apr 21, 2005 02:25 PM

Different hit points, size, animations and deaths. ;P

Marine1969 Apr 21, 2005 02:50 PM

Yeah but you jsut don't touch them and pop their heads with a well placed shot.

There's not really a difference in the tactics you might use. If you were fighting a crack head with a baseball bat you'd use different tactics to a pickup truck full of crackheads.

Even if the tactics are the same, it's still good as long as it's actually good.

Stijn Apr 21, 2005 11:08 PM

And hey, the christmas enemies are from 1.24x ;)

Blaze The Movie Fan Apr 22, 2005 03:02 PM

1.24 is just an upgrade

Like being member of RuneScape is upgrade of the free game.

blurredd Apr 22, 2005 03:10 PM

It's both an upgrade and a stand-alone game.

Marine1969 Apr 22, 2005 03:36 PM

And since it's an upgrade why isn't there a link to download it.

Because it doesn't qualify as an upgrade perhaps? It's jsut an upgraded version, like a sequal using the same game engine. Like Doom and Doom 2

Blaze The Movie Fan Apr 22, 2005 03:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marine1969
And since it's an upgrade why isn't there a link to download it.

Because it doesn't qualify as an upgrade perhaps? It's jsut an upgraded version, like a sequal using the same game engine. Like Doom and Doom 2

I don't know about you, but I sure am gonna watch both the movies Doom and Doom 2

Marine1969 Apr 22, 2005 03:41 PM

Ok, first off, have you not heard of the doom games? They're quite good and kinda kick started teh first person shooter gaming industry.

Also, the movie is lame, crap, and has nothing to do with the game it's based on. Unless they changed a lot since I last heard anything about it.

Violet CLM Apr 22, 2005 05:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sers^^
And hey, the christmas enemies are from 1.24x ;)

That's right, they're from 1.23x. ;)


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