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Birdie May 26, 2005 06:33 PM

3d or not?
 
i wondered if there would be another jazz game to come out would you want it 2d like JJ2 :D or 3d? i just wanted to know if you would want it to be 2d i think thats kinda what makes jazz well jazz

Monolith May 26, 2005 08:35 PM

3D graphics with a 2D playing field would be my choice.

Violet CLM May 26, 2005 08:44 PM

The poll options are both rather extreme, but answering the poll based merely on 2d/3d, and not the qualifiers, I'd have to say 3d would be more likely to (A.) sell well and (B.) actually be made.

HEART OF IRON May 26, 2005 10:13 PM

i don't like 3d,in 2d it is much easyer for everything.....well i like 2d cause i make cartoons in 2d so my choice is 2D.....

Stijn May 27, 2005 04:52 AM

3D = More...
  • Freedom
  • Variety
  • Map size
  • Tactical gameplay
  • Possibilities in general
  • Dimensions 8)

Fawriel May 27, 2005 04:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sers^^
3D = More...
  • Map size

Actually, in most 3D games I've played, the maps are much smaller than their 2D pendants, since 3D maps have a greater filesize and take more time to make. That's why the only reason Super Mario 64 takes long to beat is not the length or amount of levels, but the fact that you have to solve tons of puzzles in the levels. Not exactly action-packed.

Stijn May 27, 2005 05:30 AM

It depends on the game, ofcourse.

minmay May 27, 2005 06:14 AM

Having played Worms 3D and Worms Forts: Under Siege, I prefer 3D games entirely to 2D games. The only reasons for you to hate 3D games: Because your processor is too horrible to run them well, or you don't have enough memory.

Torkell May 27, 2005 06:18 AM

Whatever is best for the game. I doubt that there'd be a 3D version of Solitare any time soon (3D rendering doesn't count).

n00b May 27, 2005 07:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by minmay
Having played Worms 3D and Worms Forts: Under Siege, I prefer 3D games entirely to 2D games. The only reasons for you to hate 3D games: Because your processor is too horrible to run them well, or you don't have enough memory.

I like Worms 3d, and the 2d installments way over Worms Forts.
There are alot more reasons to hate 3d games, mainly the GAMEPLAY. Any game can be downright hateable if the gameplay just plain sucks(Licensed games, anyone?)
Plus your reasons only apply to the computer, if I am playing a console game, I don't have to worry about memory or processor problems. Is that to say that every 3d console game and 3d computer game is Perfect?

DanYjel May 27, 2005 07:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Monolith
3D graphics with a 2D playing field would be my choice.

Yes. Something like Duke Nukem Manhattan Project could be super, but I still prefer by-hand-painted graphic...

Sacrush May 27, 2005 10:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Monolith
3D graphics with a 2D playing field would be my choice.

Agreed

ShadeJackrabbit May 27, 2005 11:36 AM

It depends on the game, if it's supposed to be cartoony I like 3d but 2d, (like Paper Mario.) if it is supposed to have guns and dodging and stuff, go 3d. Yet if you have guns, jumping high, and cartooney graphics, yay for 2d!

Radium May 27, 2005 11:51 AM

As said previously in the thread, it depends on gameplay. 99% of 3D games suck, and .5% are ripoffs of other 3D games.

Odin May 27, 2005 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Radium
As said previously in the thread, it depends on gameplay. 99% of 3D games suck, and .5% are ripoffs of other 3D games.

Exactly.

minmay May 27, 2005 12:46 PM

N00b, what I mean is that 3D games, when done right, are better than 2D games. I'm only speaking in general. I'm not saying that the best 2D game isn't as good as the worst 3D game or something. I'm just saying that I generally prefer 3D games to 2D games.

On a side note, what is it you have against Worms Forts?

fiendmm++ May 27, 2005 12:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BoggyB
Whatever is best for the game. I doubt that there'd be a 3D version of Solitare any time soon (3D rendering doesn't count).

There will be when microsoft implements the 3d desktop they rumored to be in longhorn(it was taken out just like the new filesystem).

Odin May 27, 2005 04:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by minmay
N00b, what I mean is that 3D games, when done right, are better than 2D games.

So something like Doom 3 is better than Commander Keen?

fiendmm++ May 27, 2005 04:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Odin
So something like Doom 3 is better than Commander Keen?

In some aspects they are both good.... in my oppinion neither is better....... I feel no game if well put together is better than anyother game....

minmay May 27, 2005 04:46 PM

Um...no comment.

Odin May 27, 2005 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by minmay
Um...no comment.

Your lack of comment produces no defense nor attack. My rebuttal does 100 direct damage. You're dead.

I win the argument.

n00b May 27, 2005 04:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by minmay
On a side note, what is it you have against Worms Forts?

I'm not really sure why I dislike it compared to the others, it just doesn't have the same feel as the others to me.

FoxBlitzz May 27, 2005 07:27 PM

3D is much faster than 2D, so it gives much more power graphically. It's harder to learn but has a ton of potential. Of course, you could always make a 2D game using the 3D pipeline by making all of the objects flat 2-polygon planes and setting the field of view to 0.

Gameplay-wise, they are both good, but 2D is pretty limited in design. It would be kind of lame playing a game like Half-Life (2) in a 2D world. It just isn't cut up for the job.

Quote:

3D graphics with a 2D playing field would be my choice.
Yeah, that worked very well for some games. Remember Kirby 64? The camera would rotate on some parts but for the most part, the gameplay remained 2D.


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