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FreeLance Feb 7, 2006 02:23 PM

deviantART Users, Read This and Comment!
 
What's your opinion on the whole agreement thing that devART recently put up?
I went to submit a new deviation a couple of days ago and closed the window in disgust.
"Yadayada, you retain rights" - but what's this, they can use my work however they want, including editing it and dicking around with it?
Perhaps that's always been part of the agreement - perhaps I just never read it when I first started using devART - but (-)?

What do you think of it?
I'm thinking it's getting way too corporate and am probably going to stop using it soon.

n00b Feb 7, 2006 02:31 PM

I'm fine with it since I'm not too popular, so they more than likely wont mess around with my stuff.

FreeLance Feb 7, 2006 02:56 PM

Just some of my own thoughts:
I feel somewhat the same on a base level, BUT.
I understand that the agreement could very easily have simply to do with showing different pieces of art in advertisements for the site, and that the agreement could even be needed just simply to host the actual deviation itself - still, it opens up a LOT of doors, and given the weird legal stuff going on at devART and the increasingly corporate feel of things, it just seems stinky to me.

Doubble Dutch Feb 7, 2006 05:52 PM

Well, when you wake up one day to see your picture of Jazz advertising chocolate cereal, don't come crying to me.

Monolith Feb 7, 2006 08:55 PM

Haha, they just spent a month working to improve that agreement to make it clearer and better for the artists. So most likely it's better than the last one you agreed to. :P Really, I don't think it's anything to worry about. But still, every time it changes and people are forced to read it again, there always seems to be a flood of ":O OMB DEVIANTART IS GOING TO STEAL MY ARTORK AND SELL IT!!! u.u DA IS TURNING INTO AN EVIL CORPORATON >|"

FreeLance Feb 7, 2006 11:28 PM

I think it has me more concerned right now because of all of the other changes going on at devART and the focus more toward publicity, advertising, and money-making for the company and not the artists.

CrimiClown Feb 8, 2006 03:23 AM

I've seen DA as an evil first time I arrived... >O

I still upload stuff, though, as my poetry won't be used anyway. Nor will my bad pictures.

n00b Feb 8, 2006 11:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Doubble Dutch
Well, when you wake up one day to see your picture of Jazz advertising chocolate cereal, don't come crying to me.

I'd be happy, I've always wanted my art to advertise Chocolate cereal. I'll go cry my tears of joy to some one else then.

MoonBlazE Feb 8, 2006 12:51 PM

Do DeviantART do anything with your art without asking you first?

... No.

If, and only if, DeviantART would like to use your art in one or another way, they, by rule of thumps, ask you first if you're ok with it. The logic behind their rule is that they could use your art to graphics on their site (such as banners) or magazines with examples of art on their site without having to put focus on the artist than on DeviantART as a site itself.

The amount of artists that are complaining about this rule is absurd - You get free space for hosting as many pictures as you like in a nice design and including a nice communication system in trade for this. They are not part of a conspiracy. They are not trying to hurt anyone. If they did, they would lose their good artists very, very fast. Sites like that require trust for master pieces to be uploaded.

Examples include the 'Daily Ordinary Devotion' feature, when your devotion is selected, your devotion also gets a comment congratulating you but also offering you not be part of such a feature (from which you would be removed *immidately*).

FreeLance Feb 8, 2006 02:38 PM

Well, I'm not complaining - personally - about the change in agreement or even the agreement itself, but rather questioning the terms thereof. I'm not going to be uploading art for a bit while I mull it over ;)

Monolith Feb 8, 2006 08:38 PM

I don't understand what it is you are questioning.

FreeLance Feb 8, 2006 09:32 PM

Right now, just whether or not I want to give deviantART any sort of control over anything to do with my art in the future. I was planning recently on making a new devART account as the bulk of my stuff there is old, and I'm purchasing a new digital camera and starting on a new concept of photography for me. I'm not sure if I want to stay on the devART wagon - not just because of the license agreement, but because of the changes in how devART is being run, and its focus on commercialising and profit. Add to those changes the freedom they will have with my artwork, and it just makes me uncomfortable.

Batty Buddy Feb 8, 2006 10:18 PM

Que Passa!!!!

I haven't read it, so I guess I'm in the Ignorance is Bliss catagory.

Sonyk Feb 9, 2006 07:27 AM

SheezyArt anyone?

FreeLance Feb 9, 2006 08:24 AM

SheezyArt's all-right, but it's a little too family friendly and furry for me.

MoonBlazE Feb 9, 2006 08:50 AM

I don't really like SheezyArt's design, and found it to be down too often.

Monolith Feb 9, 2006 07:47 PM

deviantART's focus is still on the art and the artists more so than making a profit. They still need to work on making money because it takes a lot to run deviantART. But it's not like they're going to be directly making money off of your art. Only if you choose to sell your prints through them, or if someone decides to get a subscription due to your art.

FreeLance Feb 9, 2006 09:11 PM

For now. ;)

Tweeter Feb 10, 2006 12:31 PM

I read through the agreement. It was painful and boring but I know what they are allowed to do and not allowed to do now. Pretty much they did that to cover their own butts. They can not just "Do whatever they want" to your picture. It might of seemed like that if 1.) you didn't read the whole thing or 2.) didn't understand it.

Personally I was thinking of leaving Deviant Art regardless. I don't know... the reasons why I joined... didn't work out the way I wanted them to. But you have to take into account, Deviant Art did improve since the whole "Jark" thing. They started making improvements and doing community updates. The only thing I am really not happy with is that they still treat the subscribers like crap. :(

I have webspace I just need to register a domain name. When I do that I will just set up my own php gallery and put stuff on there. I never really like Deviant Art all that much. Oh well...

NaT Feb 10, 2006 01:18 PM

relax thats not a big deal! i mean why do u care about ur crap? huh? lol

FreeLance Feb 10, 2006 03:55 PM

(i caved and submitted a new deviation)

Doubble Dutch Feb 11, 2006 05:27 PM

Corportate lackey!

Tweeter Feb 12, 2006 07:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NaT
relax thats not a big deal! i mean why do u care about ur crap? huh? lol

I am sorry. I will continue to talk to you when you can formulate a proper sentence that people can actually understand.

Derby: Personal attack/Flame tag removal. Avoid coaxing others into fighting you.

Odin Feb 12, 2006 10:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FreeLance
SheezyArt's all-right, but it's a little too family friendly and furry for me.

How can those two things coexist?

FreeLance Feb 12, 2006 10:36 AM

Disney


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