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General Hare May 29, 2006 04:14 AM

what type of music file to use on jj2
 
What type of music file (example s3m etc) should i use besides by modplug?

Xobim May 29, 2006 05:29 AM

You can only use modules and .j2b files. JJ2 can play .XM .Mod .MTM .IT and .699 files.

JelZe GoldRabbit May 29, 2006 07:25 AM

Don't forget .s3m. The module types .mod, .xm, .it, and and .s3m are the most common. JJ2 can't handle types like MIDI, .wav and .mp3. Also, be carefull of the size: JJ2 will sometimes give Amnesia Errors with modules that are too large (>2 MB).

And no, you can't convert MP3's to Modules. ;)

- JelZe GoldRabbit =:3

Stijn May 29, 2006 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by JelZe GoldRabbit
And no, you can't convert MP3's to Modules. ;)

You can ;)

Birdie May 29, 2006 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Stijn
Quote:

Originally Posted by JelZe GoldRabbit
And no, you can't convert MP3's to Modules. ;)

You can ;)

Doesn't that depend on the mp3 you want to convert?

JelZe GoldRabbit May 30, 2006 06:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Birdie
Doesn't that depend on the mp3 you want to convert?

It depends on your ear for, and knowledge of music. MP3's are wave-type files, the file is a recording of the sound made. Modules (and Midis) are more like sheet music: at such time either a note is played on such instrument (MIDI) or a sample is played (Moldules)

With that in mind, transscribing MP3's into Modules is very cumbersome, but it can be done.

- JelZe GoldRabbit =:3

MoonRazor May 30, 2006 10:39 PM

When I create my own stages, my computer lets me use only S3M or IT-files. Even MP3 won't do! And I even hadn't heard of other music files(I mean what you have listed.)! ^^'

Xobim May 31, 2006 05:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Birdie
Doesn't that depend on the mp3 you want to convert?

It depends on the bit-speed. The higher, the bigger the file is when you convert the mp3 to a wav. The wav can be used as a sample. It becomes very big in filesize and JJ2 will crash onto it. The only way is to lower the bit-speed, thus lowering the music quality.

Birdie May 31, 2006 06:28 AM

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Originally Posted by MoonRazor
When I create my own stages, my computer lets me use only S3M or IT-files. Even MP3 won't do! And I even hadn't heard of other music files(I mean what you have listed.)! ^^'

=O Of course mp3 won't work.

Torkell Jun 1, 2006 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Xobim
It depends on the bit-speed. The higher, the bigger the file is when you convert the mp3 to a wav. The wav can be used as a sample. It becomes very big in filesize and JJ2 will crash onto it. The only way is to lower the bit-speed, thus lowering the music quality.

Um, no.

The longer the MP3, the larger the WAV that will be produced when you convert an MP3 to a WAV. As a rule of thumb, WAVs are 10MByte per minute of CD-quality audio (44.1kHz 16bit stereo). You can get smaller files without compressing by lowering the sample rate (which gets rid of higher frequencies - 22.05kHz is usually acceptable, 11.025kHz usually isn't), lowering the bit depth (you can sometimes get away with 8bit, depending on the music), or reducing it to one channel (you can usually get away with this without losing too much quality). A 11.025kHz 8bit mono wav will be around 0.75MByte/min. For reference a 128kbps MP3 is about 1MByte/min, and usually will be 44.1kHz 16bit stereo.

Bit-speed (or bitrate) has nothing to do with how large an uncompressed MP3 is.

Xobim Jun 1, 2006 10:32 AM

Right, I need to upgrade I think. =]

Birdie Jun 6, 2006 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by JelZe GoldRabbit
Don't forget .s3m. The module types .mod, .xm, .it, and and .s3m are the most common. JJ2 can't handle types like MIDI, .wav and .mp3. Also, be carefull of the size: JJ2 will sometimes give Amnesia Errors with modules that are too large (>2 MB).

And no, you can't convert MP3's to Modules. ;)

- JelZe GoldRabbit =:3

Don't forget stm mtm and 669

Speeza Jun 6, 2006 10:17 PM

Mp3 won't work but there is a way you can covert it,i have some converted mp3 songs

Puffie40 Jun 7, 2006 12:16 AM

I have succesfully converted two MP3's into a .it

my method involves converting the MP3 to a .wav (I lower the quality so it will be small enougth), where it is then able to load into modplug.

For some reason I do not know of, the music is one big sample (Compared to a MIDI when you load it up) I find I have to lengthen the song "Spaces" in order for jazz jackrabbit 2 to play the song completly, otherwise the song will "loop" (Start at the beginning) midway in. Listen a couple of times and make sure it loops where you want it.

General Hare Jul 21, 2006 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by MoonRazor
Even MP3 won't do!

You can't play tunes in jazz 1 or 2 from MP3 anyway (unless you mute the music and play MP3 on a player).

Erik Jul 24, 2006 12:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Birdie
Doesn't that depend on the mp3 you want to convert?

It doesn't ;)

Hareoic Aug 10, 2006 04:55 PM

I've converted an MP3 to .it without any loss of quality. Unfortunately, I was actually HOPING for some loss of quality, preferably enough so that you couldn't tell there was any singing.

Snipperdepipper Aug 21, 2006 08:20 AM

How can you cenvert a MIDI to a file for JJ2

Erik Aug 21, 2006 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Snipperdepipper
How can you cenvert a MIDI to a file for JJ2

http://un4seen.com/mid2xm.html


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