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General Hare Sep 1, 2006 10:40 AM

What happened to the JJ2 Bonus Levels?
 
I just wonder why there isn't at least one bonus level in JJ2. The song is still in the folders and with some programs you can even see some of the 'forgoten' animation that no longer exist within the game. It would be good if someway it will someday make it to the features. What do you think?

cooba Sep 1, 2006 10:57 AM

http://www.jazz2online.com/jcf/showp...88&postcount=2

Iam Canadian Sep 1, 2006 11:52 AM

JJ2 was rushed to the extreme, it's common knowledge. There was an old list on J2C prior to JJ2's release that listed features we were supposed to get. Among others, we were to get 42 levels, 30 enemies, and fifteen bosses.

Pako Sep 2, 2006 12:51 AM

JJ2 levels in 3D would be great! Imagine a race in 3D... Or a treasure hunt, or a test, or even a battle! Shouldn't us be able to decompile, edit and compile the 3D bonus levels?

LittleFreak Sep 2, 2006 01:33 AM

I don't think they actually exist, just the sprites and music do.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iam Canadian
There was an old list on J2C prior to JJ2's release that listed features we were supposed to get. Among others, we were to get 42 levels, 30 enemies, and fifteen bosses.

I suppose you don't have a link to that list, do you?

Doubble Dutch Sep 2, 2006 03:15 AM

e what it would've been like it if had had more tiem...

n00b Sep 2, 2006 05:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pako Spanrabbit
JJ2 levels in 3D would be great! Imagine a race in 3D... Or a treasure hunt, or a test, or even a battle! Shouldn't us be able to decompile, edit and compile the 3D bonus levels?

Except
A) It wouldn't be Multiplayer
B) It wouldn't even have shooting
and
C) All you're doing is running around through time trying to collect enough gems to amass a 1up or so.

Just take JJ1's bonus levels, spruce them up graphically and musically, and toss in Time Travel elements/effects.
Bake for 5 minutes, and then let it cool for 3.
Boom- JJ2 Bonus level.

Violet CLM Sep 2, 2006 09:15 AM

And you'd have a bird.

n00b Sep 2, 2006 10:54 AM

Yeah, that too.
I constantly forget about that.

Pako Sep 2, 2006 02:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by n00b
A) It wouldn't be Multiplayer

We could make multiplayer support for it. If we would be able to implement bonus 3D levels, making bonus levels would be a piece of cake.
Quote:

B) It wouldn't even have shooting
Well, jumping on someone's head should work.
Quote:

C) All you're doing is running around through time trying to collect enough gems to amass a 1up or so.
Not neccesarily (sp?). The goal could be changed to something else (Getting to the end avoiding stuff, destroying all enemies by jumping on them etc.).

White Rabbit Sep 2, 2006 03:08 PM

Yes, there should have been bonus levels, but not many of the world's 'should've's actually happen. :(

n00b Sep 2, 2006 05:38 PM

Ok Pako, I was telling you how it would end up if JJ2 Bonus levels were actually programmed by Arjan and Michael, not how they would be programmed in some namby-pamby fantasy land where the JJ community has time to make all the animations and code everything needed to actually create their own internal bonus levels, because there sure as hell ain't any code in JJ2 right now for them.

ThunderPX Sep 3, 2006 01:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iam Canadian
JJ2 was rushed to the extreme, it's common knowledge. There was an old list on J2C prior to JJ2's release that listed features we were supposed to get. Among others, we were to get 42 levels, 30 enemies, and fifteen bosses.

So we basically only got half the game?

WaterRabbit Sep 3, 2006 06:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jazz2City
<<>> Brandon, our Co-President strikes it again! Here's the details of Jazz 2 and Claw, quote:
Captain Claw
Jazz2's only real competition is Monolith's new release, Captain Claw. Let's take a look at what Claw has to offer. Below is a chart comparing Claw to Jazz2.
Claw Jazz2
2 playing modes 5 playing modes
1 playable character 2 playable characters
2 small level demo 2 full sized level demo
14 registered levels 42 registered levels
unregistered, unsported editor registered, fully supported editor
21 enemies at least 30 enemies
7 bosses at least 15 bosses
64 player support 32 player support
4 different attacks 14 different attacks
3 power-ups for sword 1 power-up for each of 12 guns
As you can see, other than 64 player support by Claw, Jazz2 hasn't got much competition. Of coarse, Claw is available now, while Jazz2 won't be available until early '98. Those are about the only strong points of Jazz2's competition.



I found the list. It shows you what they were going to put in JJ2. It was actually comparing JJ2 to another game, Claw (for those you who don't know, when JJ2 was being made there was another game like JJ2 that was being made by a company called Monolith).

n00b Sep 3, 2006 07:22 AM

I think they were just trying to make Captain Claw look bad, and hype the release of JJ2.

R3ptile Sep 3, 2006 10:08 AM

I have to admit Claw is just way cooler than JJ2 :p

Pako Sep 3, 2006 11:45 AM

Actually, the list is right. However, I'm not sure about the attacks (and bosses are obviously wrong).

KRSplat Sep 3, 2006 02:53 PM

Weapon 0 is missing. And no, the laser shield is NOT weapon 0.

Bonus levels would've been fun in JJ2. Honestly, though, they weren't greatly missed.

n00b Sep 3, 2006 02:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pako Spanrabbit
Actually, the list is right. However, I'm not sure about the attacks (and bosses are obviously wrong).

My demo had over 2 levels, I don't know about yours.




Even though the list is wrong, JJ2 still had 9 working bosses (animations for 10) which is still more than Claw's. Also on attacks, each character has 12 ammo types and 2 melee attacks (Ok, so Double Jump and Copterearing aren't really "attacks" since they can't harm anything)

Speeza Sep 4, 2006 08:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iam Canadian
JJ2 was rushed to the extreme, it's common knowledge. There was an old list on J2C prior to JJ2's release that listed features we were supposed to get. Among others, we were to get 42 levels, 30 enemies, and fifteen bosses.

links?

LittleFreak Sep 4, 2006 09:02 AM

Read the topic. I asked the same question and WaterRabbit answered it.


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