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Speeza Feb 14, 2008 08:44 AM

We need a 24/7 server
 
me and crazy were thinking about this.

Ok the subject is about haveing a server running 24/7. I'm sick of seeing pinging all the time. and tsf servers. and 1.20 servers.

Sometimes I just wanna kick back and play jazz with some people. Well I never can as theres allways pinging servers. Sometimes I think the retriveing server lists should say. retriveing pinging lists loser.

My point is can anyone host a server 24/7 its well needed I know a lot of people want one. please I beg you:cool:

Ty

HAha Feb 14, 2008 08:56 AM

Crazy LIL BRO
 
Great idea guys a 24/7 sever is what tsf and 1.23 need when ever i want to play jazz2 1.23 or tsf it either no severs or they are all pinging!!! with out 24/7 sever there no point in have jazz 2 online is there!}>

Violet CLM Feb 14, 2008 09:25 AM

There are several, they're just... not running, I guess.

master sven Feb 14, 2008 11:15 AM

Mostly, there are TSF servers enough...For 1.23, there was a battle server...:S

Nonomu198 Feb 14, 2008 01:11 PM

(I am the official Did You Know whiner)

The Did You Know says the BS is runing. What a lie. OR IS IT?!

(just doing my job, making your life even worse)

If you want a server host one, if you can't ask someone, if you don't find anyone then you don't have anyone to play with anyway. I think the 24/7 things makes JJ2 even less active, cuz ppl only join them, see there is nobody, and close the game for the day. If someone need to host it means that you will al least have someone to play with or wutever.

Cpp Feb 14, 2008 03:16 PM

I'm sure there will be tons of 24/7 servers once we I release a working dedicated server under GPL.

Slaz Feb 14, 2008 11:27 PM

Well, I loved the time when the battle server was back up. No serious games were played in it, but it was used as a meeting place to plan and warm up clanwars.

Speeza Feb 15, 2008 07:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slaz (Post 424941)
Well, I loved the time when the battle server was back up. No serious games were played in it, but it was used as a meeting place to plan and warm up clanwars.

Yeah I know , Some many people cared for it. Any idea when it will be ready cpp ?

sonicnathan 1 Feb 15, 2008 08:46 AM

A 24/7 server...Great idea. I think we should host one for each type of game. I"m always wanting to play treasure hunt and there's never a server for it!

Nonomu198 Feb 15, 2008 01:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SonicNathan 1 (Post 424991)
A 24/7 server...Great idea. I think we should host one for each type of game. I"m always wanting to play treasure hunt and there's never a server for it!

I believe hotels are hosted as treasure.

Bboy Type7 Feb 15, 2008 04:08 PM

I can host a 24/7 server. When I got to sleep, I just leave my computer to go stand by with all the dls goin. When do you want it? Hit me up.

Speeza Feb 15, 2008 10:09 PM

Now as its a 24/7 server lol ^^. Also make the packs have some decent levels In it. I l give you a list later , or someone else can.

DanZeal Feb 16, 2008 08:57 AM

I am hosting Zeal servers as much as i can...
Check http://www.jazz2online.com/J2Ov2/gip.php
now been up over 7h

Speeza Feb 16, 2008 11:55 AM

Yeah good job and thanks zeal. Ive noticed. :) and have been playing. and it looks like its full a lot :P.

Now just we a 24/7 battle server. if I could host again I would indeed host it.

Bboy Type7 Feb 16, 2008 12:09 PM

Is there a JJ2 dedicated server program for hosting? Dedicated servers are really fun to play in.

Vegito Feb 16, 2008 12:41 PM

There should be one probably. I'll try and get monolith to post here.

Newspaz Feb 17, 2008 08:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cpp (Post 424915)
I'm sure there will be tons of 24/7 servers once we I release a working dedicated server under GPL.

Heh, that way we'll have to search ten servers just to find eachother. :p

Cpp Feb 17, 2008 10:16 AM

There's always the server query request to get a list of players inside ;)

Nimrod Feb 18, 2008 07:55 AM

Digiex has dedicated Windows and Linux boxes both in the US and UK.

All we need is a working Dedicated Server Applicaton, and your see "Digiex.net" flooding the list server with games ;)

Speeza Feb 18, 2008 02:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nimrod (Post 425310)
Digiex has dedicated Windows and Linux boxes both in the US and UK.

All we need is a working Dedicated Server Applicaton, and your see "Digiex.net" flooding the list server with games ;)

We only need 1 or 2. Remember there are hardly any players anyway. But thanks for the nice gesture.

Grytolle Feb 18, 2008 03:28 PM

Speeza, what?

Speeza Feb 18, 2008 06:05 PM

I just think that as there isn't too much players , there be more servers online than players. Sorry If that seems stupid to anyone.

KRSplat Feb 18, 2008 09:39 PM

The (Monolith) Server, we miss you :(

WadlCury Feb 19, 2008 01:27 AM

On the moment, Falcury and I are trying to set up a 24/7 server for Karrot Shire (check this thread or the website ).

That's also one of the reasons why KS hasn't been hosted in a while. Don't worry! It will be hosted soon! And in a month we (hopefully) have a 24/7 KS server! =)

kyevan Mar 4, 2008 05:27 PM

Is there a linux dedicated server? I could maybe run a 24/7 (minus weird kernel crashes, people tripping over power cords, etc) server if there is, but otherwise...

Birdie Mar 4, 2008 05:40 PM

There is no released dedicated server, and I'm not sure that the private one (which isn't done to my knowledge) works with linux. The best way to run one is probably to just run a normal server and leave it on. (Sorry I can't help)

kyevan Mar 4, 2008 05:47 PM

Then we're screwed unless Microsoft gets their act together.

Windows isn't stable enough for a 24/7 server >_>

Birdie Mar 4, 2008 06:07 PM

Back when the battle server was around monolith had a script running that would restart the server if it crashed.

Monolith Mar 4, 2008 06:33 PM

Windows is stable enough. JJ2 isn't.

Cpp Mar 5, 2008 08:39 AM

There should be windows and linux versions of the dedicated server, I'm just not sure how much control over the memory/game a user should be given. Giving excessive amount of control makes it harder to make a decent GUI and just makes things more complex, but has its benefits while an easy-to-use GUI doesn't offer as much possibilities, but makes things much simpler to run.

The second thing to consider is where to draw the line between the hardcode and the script. Technically I could do the whole engine in C++ and offer a little scripting interface, but on the other hand I could do the entire engine in the scripting language and do only the core stuff in C++... sort of like the linux kernel.
Each method has its benefits and drawbacks.

kyevan Mar 5, 2008 12:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Monolith (Post 426332)
Windows is stable enough. JJ2 isn't.

The problem is crashing apps can take down windows, where as on linux, that almost never happens unless you crash something like X11 that touches hardware directly.

Birdie Mar 5, 2008 05:42 PM

My windows have crashed never, my applications have crashed uncountable times.

Monolith Mar 5, 2008 09:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cpp (Post 426367)
There should be windows and linux versions of the dedicated server, I'm just not sure how much control over the memory/game a user should be given. Giving excessive amount of control makes it harder to make a decent GUI and just makes things more complex, but has its benefits while an easy-to-use GUI doesn't offer as much possibilities, but makes things much simpler to run.

Keep it clean and simple. Allow for more complex controls, but for the most part try to keep those hidden.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cpp (Post 426367)
The second thing to consider is where to draw the line between the hardcode and the script. Technically I could do the whole engine in C++ and offer a little scripting interface, but on the other hand I could do the entire engine in the scripting language and do only the core stuff in C++... sort of like the linux kernel.
Each method has its benefits and drawbacks.

Hardcode the complete game so that it can run like a completely normal JJ2 server without any scripts. Use scripting to extend/modify beyond that. Or at least make the basic scripts built-in.

Quote:

Originally Posted by kyevan (Post 426378)
The problem is crashing apps can take down windows, where as on linux, that almost never happens unless you crash something like X11 that touches hardware directly.

I've had JJ2 crash on Windows while hosting it many, many times. Windows 98 handled it decently, and Windows 2000 and up doesn't have any trouble with it.

Sfaizst Mar 12, 2008 05:44 AM

24h/d server?, OK
 
In 2-4 weeks i can give u a 24h/d server, its a old one from the company where i work, i only need it to play my personal macros and programms (for my private network) on it, but, they not need the complete cpu, i would install windows 2000 server edition on it and I can give 2 or 3 persons complete acces with remote control service (if JJ and a macro for JJ is completed crashed) with windows internal service or/and teamviewer.

EDIT: Sry, but its going faster than i thing, in the compeny a other (better) server was unused, he came from a client, so today i test the server for the first 24h, than i install macros if jj is crashed or left from the list server

Sfaizst

Sfaizst Mar 15, 2008 07:22 AM

Ok, in the last 24h i had testet my Server, he not have any Problems, but JJ need Programms and ideas.

This programms i would start with JJ:
- Carrotade
- Cataclysm (or a similar anti cheat programm)

And i search Programms (for this Problems):
- If the list server is down?
- If JJ have an AV (all must work automatic, restart JJ,...)?
- And i search a programm to turn down the cpu usage (from 100 to 20-50)

Thx for help,
the Server come back, when i find a place for it and JJ work.

Sfaizst

Grytolle Mar 15, 2008 08:12 AM

cataclysm sucks (-)(-)(-) :)

Good initiative!

Ein server ist nicht maskulin in Engelsch XD

Speeza Mar 15, 2008 08:47 AM

Good job Sfaizst. Use neoac btw. located in the downloads section (I think)

What levels will you host ?

Cpp Mar 15, 2008 09:03 AM

What's strange is that this outdated Cataclysm still appears on the J2O patches page.

Sfaizst Mar 15, 2008 10:44 AM

Good Question, i will host Anniversary Bash 9, can i use, Carrotade and NeoAC??,
I know, my english is not the best (but i have the hardware) :)

Sfaizst

Vegito Mar 15, 2008 12:46 PM

wel it's anniversary bash 10 not 9 l0lz.


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