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plunK Apr 26, 2009 07:16 PM

INSTRUMENT Hero: Jazz Jackrabbit
 
Indeed, i am making this game.

Well the first things i need to point out. I am using the program Frets on Fire as the base, which i will post a link, i will also post a link with the upgrade to all the rock band gh skins.

Second thing: This will be for PC, and it supports both the keyboard and guitar hero/rock band guitars as peripherals.

Now the reason i am posting this in game development is i am going to make all these songs into guitar hero customs, and have them as a download, along with coding for an actual guitar hero style career. Songs will only have 1 skill level though.

Now to the big part, I am asking everyone to vote for songs for this. I am looking at between 30 and 80 songs. Songs can be standard from any Jazz game, Dlc by users posted on j2o, or anything made by the composers of the jj2 music(for the past inspirations and such ingame). Songs do not need guitar, just a main melody. Please post any thoughts below, and as many as 10 suggestions per person. The songs with the most votes will likely be included.

The basic setlist {38 songs} (dlc will likely be made available after release)

Jazz1:

Song10(Crysillis) - (100% completed)
Song17(Medivo) - (100% completed)
SongCD5(Deckstar) - (100% completed)

XM3(Holidaius2)
Song14(Scraparap)
Song13(Dreempipes)
Song11(Orbitus)
Song16(Megairbase)

Jazz2:

Finale (100% completed)
Intro - (100% completed)
Dark Groove Pt1 - (100% completed)
Jazz be Damned - (25% completed)


Hell Freezes over
Labratory Level
Pull Back the Bass
Xmas2

Jazz3:

Haunted Terrero - (100% completed)
Castle Boss - (100% completed)
Basement Boss - (100% completed)

Jack of spades
Green Target
Funky Foyer
Skygazer
Learning Curve

Community Remixes:
Get Medieval - Luigi Elettrico(Dr. Eggman)
Get Medieval 2 - Luigi Elettrico(Dr. Eggman)
JazzBossTune2 Gameloop() - Luigi Elettrico(Dr. Eggman)
Tempurature - FawFul
-Ancient Ruins- PT32
Labrat Funk - Fear of Dark
Diamantine Rain - Lark

Jazz Jackrabbit Composers - Other songs
Hong Kong Action (Deus EX) - (100% completed)

The Last Ballad
Tyrian, the Level(Tyrian)
Mechanism 8(Unreal Tournament)
ExtremeEnd(Unreal)
Warlord(Unreal)
Razorback(Unreal Tournament)

CrimiClown Apr 27, 2009 05:00 AM

You go ahead, darling, and I will 100% them all! Muwahahahaha.

Okay, let's get serious. I don't really think JJ songs are good material for GH/FoF levels. Sometimes it will be hard to determine a melody, and the constant echoing of the existing melodies may very well confuse the player, as he hears a lot of notes twice. Accurately making these tracks will require you to make a difference between echoes and actual notes 'played on the instrument'. If you need an example, take a look at the intro of F.C.P.R.E.M.I.X. from GH3. That demonstrates clearly how echoes and notes should look.

plunK Apr 27, 2009 07:58 AM

True, Very true, but i am willing to spend time to make them really high quality. It will probably take quite some time, but ill do my best. As for echo and such, i will be constantly looking the core mod files for these to help make them perfect

CrimiClown Apr 27, 2009 08:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by plunK (Post 446806)
True, Very true, but i am willing to spend time to make them really high quality. It will probably take quite some time, but ill do my best. As for echo and such, i will be constantly looking the core mod files for these to help make them perfect

Okay, very well. I wish you luck (and that's not meant as sarcastic).

Black Ninja Apr 27, 2009 09:08 AM

Very interesting. I'll certainly check it out and 200% them all when you release it.

plunK Apr 27, 2009 09:47 AM

Indeed. Biggest thing i need atm is for people to suggest what songs would be good for it.

Stijn Apr 27, 2009 09:49 AM

Jack of Spades

plunK Apr 27, 2009 09:55 AM

Indeed, i cant believe i forgot the one with the most guitar XD

CrimiClown Apr 28, 2009 02:16 AM

Just thought about it, and, well, usually when I make custom songs, it's impossible to get the melody out of the song since they're all .mp3 fully compiled files. But with JJ2 music, you can just output the melody line and make it into your 'guitar.ogg' file. :D

Black Ninja Apr 28, 2009 10:37 AM

Clearly 3ddemo.mod, or as I like to call it, "The Ballad of Fooruman," should be present. ;)

plunK Apr 28, 2009 02:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CrimiClown (Post 446833)
Just thought about it, and, well, usually when I make custom songs, it's impossible to get the melody out of the song since they're all .mp3 fully compiled files. But with JJ2 music, you can just output the melody line and make it into your 'guitar.ogg' file. :D

I had actually not thought of that, but i fear that will work due to the fact that some songs have multiple tracks of melody at different parts of the song. Simple solution, encode the tracks dual layer so when you miss a note the song does note silence, or you could just change the miss volume under settings to 10/10 and this would resolve this as well

Quote:

Originally Posted by Black Ninja (Post 446845)
Clearly 3ddemo.mod, or as I like to call it, "The Ballad of Fooruman," should be present. ;)

Suggestion noted, investigated, considered. This is catchy, but it is neither a Jazz track, a community remix, or by the jazz composers. I will, however, consider this for a DLC pack

PT32 Apr 29, 2009 06:54 PM

totally you should do all 3 of the Jazz themes (1,2, AND 3D--That was my fav).

Do Deep Wander too.

SPAZ18 Apr 30, 2009 12:52 AM

I would love this. If only I could use my Wii Guitar on this.
I'm guessing a PS2 one would work since that can be plugged into the PC with a PS2 to USB converter thing.

plunK Apr 30, 2009 02:38 PM

Yeah i changed the name i dont want copyright guys at my back for guitar hero





I have been considering the DLC/bonus songs situation.

Four track packs are planned, each with 6 songs.

The first DLC update will likely be the JJ3 track pack with:
Castle City, Deep Wander, Greenland, Runabout ,Sun Song and Fanfare(Yes an 8 second song).

A second DLC pack will be the Intro pack with:
MENUSNG, Jazz2 menu, Jazz2 menu(unused alternate),JJ3D theme,
The Unreal Opening, and The Intro to Deus EX

The third Likely DLC will be the Boss/Bonus track pack with:
BOSS, BONUS, Bonus Level Remix, Boss stage 1, Jazz 2 Bonus Stage, and possibly Boss Stage 2

The Fourth (and possibly final) track pack will be the JJ2 track pack:
Carrotus, Fastrack, Frolick Lane, Medieval Jam, Jazz Belmont, and Jungle Fevah v2.

Other singles will likely be made on consumer request.

Also: Due to the extreme difficulty of the final tier, some songs may have mediumish skill levels as opposed to the expert difficulty currently used, and this additional skill level may eventually be implemented on all songs


btw, Wii controllers are actually supported, you just need bluetooth.

plunK May 1, 2009 02:50 PM

Ya i know i honestly could think of anything better. ill probably pick something corny like Hero of Guitar or something

DoubleGJ May 2, 2009 06:30 AM

I'd like to suggest fearofdark's Dark Groove remix. I think it'd be really fun with those small solos.

Also, if you're still going to add songs later on, I'd love to see some of the remixes from my JJGBA remix album which I'm still working on... :)

Black Ninja May 5, 2009 11:11 PM

Call it something like "Green Bunny and a Big Blue Guitar Controller."

I just noticed you're using Frets on Fire as a base. May I ask if you're building a custom game theme to go with your JJ-related distribution?

Sonyk May 7, 2009 07:23 PM

BFG Hero

CrimiClown May 8, 2009 02:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sonyk (Post 447239)
BFG Hero

Haha, I support this.

Pako May 8, 2009 04:53 AM

Alexander Brandon's Stepbrother

Sebek aka Slayer May 8, 2009 08:56 AM

nice

FawFul May 9, 2009 06:02 AM

i want marbela and technoir :). (maybe the technoir remix <3)

you want to use temperature ^^. nice. but be sure you change it too the melody instead of the simple guitar. i mean. the synth, and maybe the bippy-bop melody.

Nonomu198 May 9, 2009 01:18 PM

Call it Synthesizer Hero.

Violet CLM May 10, 2009 05:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sonyk (Post 447239)
LFG Hero

fix'd

Black Ninja May 11, 2009 10:36 AM

If you're thinking of names, I'd stray away from the word "Hero." Activision has been going on a spree of slapping trademarks on as many "Hero" games as possible, and it wouldn't surprise me at all if they were just scumbag enough of a company to try to come after you for it.

CrimiClown May 11, 2009 11:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Black Ninja (Post 447341)
If you're thinking of names, I'd stray away from the word "Hero." Activision has been going on a spree of slapping trademarks on as many "Hero" games as possible, and it wouldn't surprise me at all if they were just scumbag enough of a company to try to come after you for it.

As far as I know, the word 'hero' is common wealth....

Nonomu198 May 11, 2009 11:37 AM

Company of Heroes Courageous Men

DoubleGJ May 11, 2009 12:24 PM

Guitar Soldier of Fortune


I hope someone gets this

plunK May 17, 2009 03:12 PM

I will likely spend time and make a custom theme, yes

plunK Jul 3, 2009 05:11 PM

Lo and behold: The current Demo for my Jazz Jackrabbit Music Rhythm game.
http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?xj2nyzywijb

Contents:
JJ1- Crysillis
JJ1- Medivo
JJ1- Deckstar
JJ2- Intro
JJ2- Finale
JJ2- Jazz be damned
JJ2- Dark Groove
JJ3- Haunted Terrerro
JJ3- Castle Boss
JJ3- Basement Boss
Dues Ex- Hong Kong Action.

Requirements: Have Frets on Fire

Notes: As this is the current working demo i have some pre comments.

One part of Deckstar has extra notes and will get fixed eventually.
Jazz Be Damned is only roughly half done as of now
All Songs are expert Difficulty, Crysillis has a hard option.

Red hot smasher Jul 4, 2009 08:28 AM

I vote JJ1 Menu song (MENUSNG), JJ1 Tubelectric and JJ1 and JJ2 boss themes.

plunK Jul 4, 2009 07:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Red hot smasher (Post 449061)
I vote JJ1 Menu song (MENUSNG), JJ1 Tubelectric and JJ1 and JJ2 boss themes.

These are all in that big old "eventually" category, along with pretty much all the JJ2 and JJ3 songs and bout half the JJ1 songs

CrimiClown Jul 5, 2009 03:54 AM

The tunes are fine, mostly, if not a bit sketchy, but maybe that's because I've got FoFix. Dunno if that will influence the note charts.

By the way, Jazz be Damned doesn't end (soon enough). Just saying. :P

MrLopez Jul 22, 2009 02:16 PM

lol that's awesome


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