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Violet CLM Jun 24, 2009 12:37 PM

LAJ
 
LAJ is a JJ2 sprite comic I was toying with back in 2004. I thought I might as well show off what it looked like... I got seventeen strips in, plus some random fillers, so I'll update every day or so until the buffer runs out. Be charitable, since this was 2004, but otherwise, enjoy! :)

Suroguner Jun 24, 2009 03:26 PM

Where/how did you get the sprites?

Violet CLM Jun 24, 2009 03:46 PM

Back then, everything was done through screenshots. Either I'd set up a one-color level and put together my one sheet of various useful-looking poses, or (especially in some of the more actiony strips) I'd just set the area the strip was set it in and take a screenshot of the stuff actually happening. These days it might be simpler to use Spriters Resource.

Nonomu198 Jun 24, 2009 11:59 PM

Why is it called LAJ?

Violet CLM Jun 25, 2009 10:10 AM

It'll make sense later.

Suroguner Jun 25, 2009 07:03 PM

Nice recap

In sprite related stuff, how would I get Lori's sprites? They aren't on TSR and I have no idea how Dolphman got the Special stage sprites

Violet CLM Jun 25, 2009 08:10 PM

Jazz Sprite Dynamite.

Violet CLM Jun 26, 2009 08:49 AM


Awkward repeated last panel is awkward.

Slaz Jun 26, 2009 11:52 AM

Nice work (2004 rules on)! The JJ2 sprite library would be big enough to make comic variations for another 5 years at least.. :p

Nonomu198 Jun 26, 2009 01:47 PM

I know villains like talking to themselves, but why did Devan suddenly scream "MY ARMY!"?

CrimiClown Jun 27, 2009 03:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IconGuy (Post 448776)
I know villains like talking to themselves, but why did Devan suddenly scream "MY ARMY!"?

Well obviously he bumped his arm and he screamed in pain and Violet just typo'd 'arm'. I know it sounds improbable but Violet has really big fingers.

Violet CLM Jun 27, 2009 08:51 AM

Eh, villains shout parts of their thoughts sometimes. I think it comes with the job description.

Nonomu198 Jun 27, 2009 12:01 PM

I think they only suddenly shout when they talk to themselves, not think. I'd usually have more to say about the comics, but, you know, 2004.

Violet CLM Jun 28, 2009 11:03 AM

2004 does mean that you're not really going to be able to affect upcoming content, but comments are always encouraging.
Nowadays I have a more nuanced appreciation of this weapon, because it has so many quirky uses and you can almost kill the last boss in Mike's new episode before you leave the cave with it.

EvilMike Jun 28, 2009 01:22 PM

With evilice on it actually has a use in multiplayer.

CrimiClown Jun 29, 2009 01:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EvilMike (Post 448832)
With evilice on it actually has a use in multiplayer.

Not to brag or anything, but in TITLED Deux, you can evilice everyone in the pits and because you did damage, it counts as your kill as well.

These comics are, well, moderately funny. They've got some sort of a punchline, but it's more of a prodline, if you ask me... just doesn't get me on my feet...... (Not that I am one to complain, BrainFart and TGOC have been nothing but slight prods.)

Violet CLM Jun 29, 2009 10:41 AM

Mmmhmm. It's more of a plot comic, really, but I agree I could have spent more time making individual strips interesting.

Bobby aka Dizzy Jun 29, 2009 07:21 PM

ILLEGAL JAZZ SIDEKICK!

EvilMike Jun 29, 2009 07:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CrimiClown (Post 448842)
Not to brag or anything, but in TITLED Deux, you can evilice everyone in the pits and because you did damage, it counts as your kill as well.

Even with evil ice off it counts as your kill, in my experience. It's a cool little feature of JJ2+ that not many people know about.

Slaz Jun 29, 2009 10:30 PM

I remember something like that from Unreal Tournament. At normal situations where a player fell into a pit or 'hurting' part of an arena, that player had a suicide just dropping a point from the score. But when an opponent player shot that player into the pit or hurting ground, it was stated as an 'envoirment kill' instead.

Violet CLM Jun 30, 2009 10:13 AM

I am not sure how relevant this discussion is but at least it keeps the thread active!

We've seen snippets of each rabbit fighting the enemy forces and being more or less successful. Here beginneth the plot!

Dermo Jun 30, 2009 07:04 PM

I like it so far

Foly Jul 1, 2009 02:36 AM

Nice comics :)

CrimiClown Jul 1, 2009 03:04 AM

...that last panel, is it supposed to be some kind of strategy game or something? I don't get it. :(

Violet CLM Jul 1, 2009 11:06 AM

Crimi: Yes, a quite notable one. It's not really relevant that you recognize the specific game, though, the point is just that there are a bunch of demon units being brought into the field.

Oh, publishers. I didn't actually contact Moonblaze about this, because it's arguably just an homage, but I was definitely going to because I think his work makes for a very reasonable expansion of the canon (moreso than the old war tavern days when everyone and their brother lived in Carrotus Castle) and I was interested in incorporating more elements into the comic as time went on, particularly the "wolf rabbit" himself.

EvilMike Jul 1, 2009 01:52 PM

Also jj2 has enemy sprites and tilesets for hell themed levels which makes it a convenient plot element :P

Really not much you can do with the game in terms of storytelling, when it comes to the antagonists. It's either devan shell's guys, demons, or.... animals I guess? An invasion of crabs?

Dermo Jul 1, 2009 04:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ragnarok (Post 448950)
The evil PIE MONSTER

This is the random and unfunny things that takes something funny like that last comic strip and ruins it.

If you were funny i'd be like "no way! ha ha ha ha!" but you're not funny so i'm just like "(sarcastic)ha ha ha ha! (/sarcastic) no!"

CrimiClown Jul 2, 2009 01:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dermo (Post 448952)
If you were funny i'd be like "no way! ha ha ha ha!" but you're not funny so i'm just like "(sarcastic)ha ha ha ha! (/sarcastic) no!"

you stalking cooba or something?

cooba Jul 2, 2009 03:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CrimiClown (Post 448964)
you stalking cooba or something?

If you were funny i'd be like "no way! ha ha ha ha!" but you're not funny so i'm just like "(sarcastic)ha ha ha ha! (/sarcastic) no!"

Violet CLM Jul 2, 2009 10:37 AM

:rolleyes: be nice to Rag, folks, people talked that way all the time in 2004 and it's nostalgic.

Anyway, it's true, JJ2 only has so many enemy types. I had plans to convert JJ1 enemies to the JJ2 shading style when necessary, but for the most part, it's a bad idea to theme comics (particularly sprite comics) around battles anyway. In this draft LAJ does start with one because it's important to the plot, but even this I was considering redoing as a flashback and starting in medias res instead.

Dermo Jul 2, 2009 04:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CrimiClown (Post 448964)
you stalking cooba or something?

I came up with that quote ORIGINALLY... Cooba took it from me...

Nonomu198 Jul 3, 2009 04:00 AM

Why is Lori such a wimp in your comics?

Violet CLM Jul 3, 2009 09:40 AM

Because Lori doesn't have the combat experience that Jazz and Spaz do. Jazz was a galactic soldier of fortune who had saved countless planets before JJ1 even happened. Spaz doesn't have the same extensive background, but he doesn't really feel fear the same way most other rabbits do, and he did go through countless wormholes and planets in search of Devan and his time machine in JJ2. Lori did go on the search for Valhalla, but she's been through far fewer combat environments, has never tackled a "boss," and doesn't even know how to use a copter. I'll admit that this is somewhat at odds with the extremely confident persona her sound effects express, but another feature of the quest for Valhalla was that there really wasn't any antagonist, they were just fighting creatures that were already there. Here there is a direct threat from an approaching force who want her dead, and if things go badly, retreating is much less of a viable option because Devan will presumably want to cause destruction if he's not being directly opposed. The pressure is a lot higher.
...anyway, tell don't show aside:

Violet CLM Jul 4, 2009 09:36 AM

double-post city
 

Violet CLM Jul 5, 2009 08:24 AM

LAJ: Life After Jazz
 

Ragnarok! Jul 5, 2009 09:16 AM

NOOOO :(!

LittleFreak Jul 5, 2009 09:33 AM

This is getting pretty interesting. Also very well done, artistically.

CrimiClown Jul 5, 2009 09:59 AM

Finally, the good guy gets it.

Nonomu198 Jul 6, 2009 02:48 AM

No worries, I'm sure he will respawn in a savepoint someplace near.

...Right?

Ragnarok! Jul 6, 2009 05:00 AM

What if he ran out of lives? :(


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