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Lithium Feb 5, 2011 10:18 AM

A new jj.net admin: Yes or no?
 
Because I do not want to spam the ladder with such comments,because the forum I mod is inactive,and because I want to avoid "you want an admin just because the scoring system???" questions,I'll post it here? Would you want a new jj.net admin who preferably isn't from CC,who's active and can solve your problems? I think we do need a new admin to deal with spam on the site and in the Zeals more effectively and to prevent abuse of the ladder system. What's your opinion?

spaceboy Feb 5, 2011 10:23 AM

Agreed fully. In fact I have no idea why I'm not an admin yet.

cooba Feb 5, 2011 10:24 AM

Agreed fully. In fact I have no idea why I'm not an admin yet.

Ric Feb 5, 2011 10:27 AM

Agreed fully. In fact I have no idea why I'm not an admin yet.

Lithium Feb 5, 2011 10:27 AM

Agreed fully. In fact I have no idea why I'm not an admin yet.

master sven Feb 5, 2011 10:27 AM

Hmm I think you should separate the Zeal servers and JJ.net.
The Zeal servers are owned by DZ and he is free to pick admins in whichever way he wants, I can't agree with that system though, almost any skilled player regardless of age is a trustee.
Without clans, there wouldnt be a ladder, so I think it should be well controlled. Preventing abuse of the ladder system doesn't seem to be a regular admin job, so I think recruiting a new one doesn't solve that problem.
Though I doubt the way the jj.net admins were chosen I think that if you have any complains you can better post a thread like this to solve them, instead of bugging admins on messenger or mail.

spaceboy Feb 5, 2011 10:31 AM

I've already offered myself a long long time ago, but the admin of JJ.net is 30 years old, yet immature and only picks his friends/clanmates/ex-clanmates, regardless of who the coolest person in the community truly is. :p

In fact I just wanna be an admin to make a BRFH mafia and abuse everyone.

Ana Feb 5, 2011 10:34 AM

why would another admin be needed? aren`t there enough admins?

spaceboy Feb 5, 2011 10:36 AM

Cuz there are like 10 admins from CC and barely any from other clans.

During the few days I was a trustee I banned Vulkan, and also another trustee (a random polish noob called Ktos or something).. that was awesome.

Ana Feb 5, 2011 10:37 AM

haha :D:D ++banning! I like banning and kicking nubz,can i be an admin?

Anubis Feb 5, 2011 10:38 AM

The admins of Zeal ARE separated from the admins of jj.net.
And..
ANUBIS FOR ADMIN!

spaceboy Feb 5, 2011 10:39 AM

At last I made them change the login password. Whee

FawFul Feb 5, 2011 10:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spaceboy (Post 466788)
Agreed fully. In fact I have no idea why I'm not an admin yet.

Quote:

Originally Posted by spaceboy (Post 466795)
Cuz there are like 10 admins from CC and barely any from other clans.

During the few days I was a trustee I banned Vulkan, and also another trustee (a random polish noob called Ktos or something).. that was awesome.

Well..:7

spaceboy Feb 5, 2011 10:41 AM

Yep, don't trust me! I only made JJ2WC to make my own clan win!

Anubis Feb 5, 2011 10:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spaceboy (Post 466795)
Cuz there are like 10 admins from CC and barely any from other clans.

During the few days I was a trustee I banned Vulkan, and also another trustee (a random polish noob called Ktos or something).. that was awesome.

CC 3, NF 2, VS 2, t3 1 admin.. not 10.

spaceboy Feb 5, 2011 11:05 AM

Wrong
Quote:

Zeal servers admins
DanZeal

Owner
Grytolle Power admin*
Nerd Power admin*
Anubis Power admin*
Hitch Admin
Vegito Power admin*
Hunter Admin
Impossibler Admin
Warrior Admin
Vivando Power admin*
Fawful Admin
Ktos Admin
Jake Admin
Djazz Admin

Shaker Moderator
SirEmentaler Moderator
Kimo Moderator
Artem Moderator
Just out of 5 "POWER ADMINS", 4 happen to be from CC.

And I see lots of noobs here who just happen to be DZ' friends.

Lithium Feb 5, 2011 11:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ana (Post 466794)
why would another admin be needed? aren`t there enough admins?

There are too many CC admins. We want an admin from GpW/CDF/a clanless admin/*insert another random clan*

Quote:

Originally Posted by spaceboy (Post 466803)
Wrong

Just out of 5 "POWER ADMINS", 4 happen to be from CC.

And I see lots of noobs here who just happen to be DZ' friends.

As he said. Artem as a mod,the guy you wanted to ban a month ago?

Vegito Feb 5, 2011 11:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spaceboy (Post 466803)
Wrong

Just out of 5 "POWER ADMINS", 4 happen to be from CC.

And I see lots of noobs here who just happen to be DZ' friends.

Power admin is something totally different than jj.net admin, just saying.
Also, its 3 CC power admins

Lithium Feb 5, 2011 11:12 AM

"power admin" says enough

And for the record,we actually want something to be done about this. DZ ignored all previous requests,but you won't ignore this one.

spaceboy Feb 5, 2011 11:15 AM

There should definitely be even more than one admin from [GpW].

If DZ had a brain, he'd use a small crew with the best people from all the big clans, regardless of who are his friends, like I did with JJ2WC. But it's DZ so..

Lithium Feb 5, 2011 11:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spaceboy (Post 466807)
If DZ had a brain, he'd use a small crew with the best people from all the big clans, regardless of who are his friends, like I did with JJ2WC. But it's DZ so..

Well,I'd not insult DZ,but he really is biased when he gets to pick admins. And the mods are randomly picked...I mean,Artem,seriously wtf dude

Anubis Feb 5, 2011 11:17 AM

Power admins can do operations directly on the Zeal servers, this has NOTHING to do with jj.net or the ladder. He's hosting his own server, he can ask whoever he wants to be an admin in his own servers, be grateful you may play there, he's giving away a lot of money for these servers. And who is admin on these servers is in no way related to the moderating of jj.net and the ladder. Also, don't expect to become an admin if you say the head admin has no brain, you can't become an admin with that attitude. Artem or no Artem, it's his server, host your own server if you can, and then you get to pick the admins for it.

Lithium Feb 5, 2011 11:19 AM

And all goes to same: worship DZ,worship CC admins and stfu about the situation,for the Almighty Server owner will deny you acces to His kingdom of Zeals if you don't.

spaceboy Feb 5, 2011 11:20 AM

Artem gave cheats to RL. It must be a joke to make him a moderator.
..now he'll send a virus to my computer for saying this.

Lithium Feb 5, 2011 11:22 AM

Rep,I'd give you massive amounts of reputation for your posts. As you say,wtf lol,making him a mod???

Anubis Feb 5, 2011 11:22 AM

Thanks to Artem any kind of cheaters can easily be caught now. Cheats on JJ2 are easy to get, anyone can download cool hax 4 u and use unlimited ammo or something, are you saying it's a joke that Gry is an admin then? (He created cool hax 4 u). If you want your suggestion to be taken seriously at all, you should stay on topic. Zeal admins != JJ.net admins

cooba Feb 5, 2011 11:23 AM

FUN FACT: RL wouldn't have been ever caught without Artem's and Grytolle's work, which means that they'd eventually get to JJ2WC3 finals and lol in r3p's face

spaceboy Feb 5, 2011 11:24 AM

He just fixed all the harm he's done. Which at least makes him more decent than Orbitz. And just so you know, there are still cheaters in JJ2 that haven't been caught.

Lithium Feb 5, 2011 11:25 AM

Um no,we pwned RL in a fair way. Maybe they would have used cheats,but...
Let's not forget just a few months ago you all wanted to lynch Artem. And cooba,without him,RL wouldn't have had those cheats...

spaceboy Feb 5, 2011 11:27 AM

I love when Cooba gets into a combative mode against someone random each time.

cooba Feb 5, 2011 12:26 PM

FUN FACT #2: I'm right
Quote:

Originally Posted by Lithium (Post 466816)
And cooba,without him,RL wouldn't have had those cheats...

Yeah he first gave them cheats and then changed his mind :D
Quote:

Originally Posted by spaceboy (Post 466817)
I love when Cooba gets into a combative mode against someone random each time.

I really wish you'd stop doing this everytime someone disagrees with you

COOBA/FQUIST/STIJN/RANDOM JCF USER IS EVIL AND BIASED AGAINST ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Jgke Feb 5, 2011 12:42 PM

Hmm, this would look like a good possibility to get an admin... whoops, i am dz's friend

Vegito Feb 5, 2011 01:02 PM

ZD admins are not something to be discussed, its a server running and DZ can decide who he trusts.

JJ.net admins is another thing, there's been discussions going on today obviously we heard what you said. Voting for an admin? Not such a great idea.

Grytolle Feb 5, 2011 01:08 PM

What's this "abuse of the ladder system" you speak of?

Restart the thread and filter out everything related to DZ's JJ2 servers and we might be able to have a fruitful discussion

spaceboy Feb 5, 2011 01:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cooba (Post 466820)
COOBA/FQUIST/STIJN/RANDOM JCF USER IS EVIL AND BIASED AGAINST ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Whatever you say, those three names do make me cry in yawn.

cooba Feb 5, 2011 01:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spaceboy (Post 466827)
do make me cry in yawn.

Hi Emp! I knew that you didn't just magically disappear from JJ2.

Toni Feb 5, 2011 01:26 PM

FUN FACT #3: Cobba is always right.

FUN FACT #4: Zeal servers are not the same as JJ.net is. JJ.net was hosted by DZ (and Gry I think) in 2008 and it's still online. Dan hosted servers Zeal Alpha and Zeal Duels separately of JJ.net. After long period, he hosted 3 more Zeal Duels, Zeal Beta and Zeal Relaxer. Well, I'm not sure why everyone think that JJ.net is the same as ZD are, but if you think that because of 'They are banned from Zeal Servers' (in news on jj.net) you're wrong. Zeal Servers are the most popular ones in this community with The Server, and everyone plays there, so, he wanted to announce somehow that someone is banned on his server. Dan is only a good man who gives admins to the trustee people, so if you want to be an admin, don't make a rebellion. It will not help. In the worst case you can be banned from the servers. In the best case you can be an admin. But why would you need an admin? To kick/ban/etc. other people? Just call someone who can ban and he will come. As we all can see, CC is the oldest clan in JJ2, and there are trustee people for DZ. He picks admins for ZD, for JJ.net etc., so, there is no way for you guys to be an admin if you behave like this. I don't want to be an admin on Zeal Servers because everyone will call me to ban someone.

FUN FACT # >9000: Now I would like to see what will happen with my reputation, because lithium posrepped r3p because he agrees with lithium. It is 7 right now, so everyone can see it :D.

Vegito Feb 5, 2011 01:31 PM

Everybody thinks they're the same cause it's mostly the same admins ;-).

Having more/other admins for the ladder, I don't mind. I just don't think it's actually gonna solve problems cause the things players ask for need to be implemented. Unless the admin that would be new has the time and skills to implement things at the site, it might not make a difference ;-)

Toni has a point though. You request to be an admin although with the current behaviour if I were Dan, I'd not trust you to be of good help :p. I'd scared of what might happen to the ladder/servers instead.

Also, too many CC admins? 3 out of 9....

spaceboy Feb 5, 2011 01:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cooba (Post 466829)
Hi Emp! I knew that you didn't just magically disappear from JJ2.

The spirit of Emp will go with me forever.

Grytolle Feb 5, 2011 01:47 PM

Toni: DanZeal is a grown man. He's way too mature to ban people from ZD because of a thread like this. (We won't ban anyone from jj.net for this either).


Possible candidates imo:

clanless: cooba
GpW: Lithium, Urbs
CDF: Treylina
id): FireSword
BRFH: r3p


Lithium and cooba are the best options imo (Urbs isn't interested)

(I did look at Y's and Cpt's member lists too)


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