bash 13
 

I arranged a bash with CelL in the past, but it was a joint effort and I really wanted to do them myself (No offense!), so I would like to do the bash packs for this year.

Discuss please.

Sorry if I sound like an idiot here, but what date is the next bash? And wow, it's so weird to think JJ2 has reached its "teen" stage. I hope the battle maps chosen won't be so terrible this time (actually most of them were completely fine, but two were a total joke, I'm talking about the sketchy tileset and "Bobo meets royalty" (that nub castle tileset lvl that contains two rooms with all pus and a full C) which were funny for a while but then just got annoying because everyone left the moment it was on).

Respect the traditions!

Indeed

Ok, I'm not going to tolerate any nonsense here. Who the hell negrepped me? Also, at least attempt an intelligent conversation please.

Will this year's packs focus mainly on "classic" levels, new levels, or neither?

Neither?? As in, old levels that aren't popular enough to become classics?

I never really got involved with bash packs as far as I remember, but you obviously tried to open a discussion and see what this years bash could look like. Either way, I upped your reputation again cause I don't see the point of negrepping you when you actually try to organize the bash.

Decent levels from April 2010 onwards
 

Battle

Magic Dust (Toni)
Diamonds of War (Agnes)
Coldwater Mines (EliteLC)
Dream Stage (Snooze)
EvilMike's Not-So-Evil Fortress (EvilMike)
Unusual Place with Lava (EliteLC)
Surreal Supersuburbs (FireSworD)
Stalactite Labratory (FawFuL)
Sovun Valtakunta (Snooze)

Not really a lot to pick from in terms of good new battle levels this bash. I suppose the rest would have to be filled with a mixture of some oldschool and modern classics. Would be great if the active level makers would make a contribution to the lineup of battle levels before the bash starts. Theoretically we could use all the levels from SC2, but would that be fair? :P

CTF

PipE DowN (Shadow) - was this in bash 12? I don't remember
Abandoned Park (Jake)
Desert Fight (Laro)
The Swimming Island (Jake)
Bridge with a big hole (Ktos)
Space Shuttle Arena (Toni)
Wicked Wood (FawFuL)
Employee of the Month (EvilMike)
Light Switch (EvilMike)
Sterile CTF (Stripe)
Shadowless Encounter (Sir Ementaler)
Minimal Duel (Snooze) - no longer available but I'm sure everyone has it
Camelot (Merlyn)
Light Point (DarkSonic)
Harlem (Robee)
Universal CTF (GLaDOS)
Twisted System (Galana)
30's Great Siege (EliteLC)
Sanctuary River (Laro)
Deep Depths (NekoMithos)
ISLAND LEVEL WITH ISLANDS (EvilMike)
Cave of Dreams (Jake)
RCTF (DJazz)
Silent Hills (Laro)

While there weren't many battle levels uploaded recently, there were certainly a lot of CTF levels made this time! At least there isn't really an excuse to fill the CTF levellist with a load of older levels for this bash, although that's not to say we have to use all of the levels I've listed here; these are just all the decent levels I've found out of the downloads page from the past year.

If I've forgotten any levels that people would've liked me to include, I apologise in advance. I've deliberately excluded any TSF levels for the sake of this list, although seeing how virtually all of JJ2 has TSF these days, perhaps hosting the bash in TSF would be plausable?

just convert their lvls to 1.23 :p

Thanks FS, I wasn't going to rush the work on my levels because I'm pretty much swamped with university work, but thanks to this thread I have to get them done ASAP because knowing the people here, a list will be made in less than 48 hours

ehe]m cooba you need snzspeed draught keg pwns OVER 9000 liters of pure pleasure , make a level big enough and badaboom by bye bash LOL

we still have another 2 months till the bash starts, 2 months of levels that make a chance getting in the list. the list can be modified at any date before 9th of april, basically.

Oops, I meant "both."

wats bash

btw. FS where's our duel??? I'm waiting since ages.
You challenged me and never showed up again!

Gjenka is being horny :>

I guess this is some kind of joke I'm supposed to understand but I don't and if I take it literally I get negrepped. gg..

What tradition? To put joke levels in bash packs?

This level has always been in the bash pack throughout the years. The definition of the word tradition explains enough :)

Well, I've only been to one bash, so I don't really know about "traditions". But err...thanks for answering.

Which level is that? I don't recall any level that's been in every bash.

It's nice seeing that ELC levels might get in. Good job,fellow members!

Fixed that for you.

That should mean ALL the levels get in,and I wasn't expecting most of ELC ones to.

...wait,do all the levels get in?

The intent of my post wasn't to show what levels I think should get in the bash listing. I just wanted to point out all the levels of at least a fair quality, to make it easier to choose levels when the bash lists are actually put together. Nothing is confirmed to be in just yet.

Let Vegito compile the bash packs! ;0

Uhm I have nothing really intelligent to add here tbh, but I wouldn't mind seeing One silver penny on the list for old times sake:)

And I wouldnt mind seeing it on the ZD level list either!

Anyway, I'm sure the bash will be a success and I'm sure FS will pick the levels allright.

Viv: No xD

Nope

There are about 20 days until bash? - Decisions should be made soon imo.

I think it's pretty much a matter of someone just starting to compile a pack, isn't it? As far as I can see no one's said "NO! I WANT TO DO IT INSTEAD!", so I'd say go ahead and post your proposals here, so people can comment on what they like about your selection and what not...

Last-minute levels have been included in previous editions too (Shadow's packs, for example), so I wouldn't say there's a need to wait for some levels to be finished either.

Thanks. I'll take the honor of assembling both packs. First, I will post potential lists here later.

CURRENT LISTS (UNFINISHED):

CTF List:

1. Employee of the Month by EvilMike
2. Abandoned Park by Jake
3. Wicked Wood by FawFuL
4. Light Point by DarkSonic
5. ISLAND LEVEL WITH ISLANDS by EvilMike
6. Sterile CTF by stripe
7. Shadowless Encounter by Sir Ementaler
8. Twisted System by Galana
9. Minimal Duel by Snooze
10. PipE DowN by Shadow
11. Light Switch by EvilMike
12. Harlem by Robee
13. Grave of the Snooze by Snooze (This wasn't in the previous bash)
14. Camelot by Merlyn
15. GaLaXiuS (Updated Version) by FireSworD
16. Silent Hills by Laro (This will be converted to 1.23, any objections?)
17. Bridge with a big hole. by Ktos (Don't know if I want to keep this)
18. Universal CTF by GLaDOS
19. Junkyard Blues by Snooze (This wasn't in the previous bash)
20. Real CTF by DJazz (Likely to be replaced soon, any objections?)

Battle List:

1. Dream Stage by Snooze
2. Stalagtite Labratory by FawFuL
3. EvilMike's Not-So-Evil Fortress by EvilMike
4. Diamonds of War by Agnes
5. Sovun Valtakunta by Snooze
6. Apocalytic End (from SC2) by BlurredD
7. Surreal Supersuburbs by FireSworD
8. Death, Decay, Rose, River by Snooze
9. Necrosis by PurpleJazz (Potential addition)
10. Dethroned (from SC2) by BlurredD
11. Catastrophe Cathedral by cooba (Potential addition)
12. E. Prime (from SC2) by BlurredD (Potential addition)
13. Magic Dust by Toni (This will be converted to 1.23, any objections?)
14. Enter the Chaos by FireSworD (Hard version. Added just for fun, this particular version was never in bash)

As you can see, the battle list is severely lacking in levels. Some people stated they would make levels, but even so, there needs to be more filler (unless A LOT of new levels are made). Also, how does everyone feel about the number of EvilMike and Snooze levels?

keep teh bridge

less evilmike/snooze more coldwater mines

The EvilMike/Snooze part stands. There should be more levels from other levelmakers. The only problem is that there may not be enough other levels...Whatever. I think Coldwater Mines is a decent level though...

I've suggested this before and I'll suggest it again: 15 levels without filler is a better idea than 20 levels with filler. I'm not very fond of Harlem, RCTF, or Shadowless Encounter myself.

I'm happy to see Junkyard Blues on the list - why isn't it on the Zeal levellist already? Same for Neufrlagar (and a dozen of other levels, frankly). I'd also like to see the new E. Prime, too.

Also,

Just commenting on my own levels here, if you were to remove any it should probably be light switch. As amusing as I find the level, the more players you add the less well it works. That would leave 3 (I think) of my levels included, which is probably more reasonable if anyone has a problem with 4 of them being featured.

If you want to lower that to two levels, I would recommend keeping island level with islands and emnsef, since those are the two actually designed for larger player counts.

If I hurry up enough, I might just be able to finish my battle level in time. It's large-medium which could be ideal for the bash. I'm getting close to finishing the layout. It's really for a almost-battle-themed pack of mine, but I could send it in reguardless for a taster (and the lack of new battle maps on this lvllist just begs for it...). And imo EOTM isn't suitable for a bash. It just isn't...it may be fun sometimes, but it could get far too chaotic with people pushing each other considering the size. It works with duels and 2v2s (and maybe just possibly 3v3), and thats about it. I don't want to sound biased (because we happen to be in the same clan) or anything, but I think Mithos's map, Hells Core would do nicely for the bash. No, it's not because he's in CDF, but because it's big (I'll admit it does have a ridiculous amount of C's though).

EOTM is staying. Larger levels are preferable for bash but not required.

I was considering Mithos's level, if it gets more demands I'll add it asap.

Nice to see how the Duel Tournament Map contest really boosted the creation of new quality levels, since half of the current CTF-list is only contest entries. Meanwhile the battle scene is kinda lacking due to that there weren't any successful contests.

Also I will be finishing a battle level during this week, so you might want to check that one out.

It's a shame really. I had a battle map contest going on and only got a very few submissions. I guess people were too busy around the time. Hopefully around the summer holidays I will attempt to revive it. Nope, I didn't forget about it, I'm just going to restart my contest when people have more free time.