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DennisKainz Jan 13, 2013 10:01 AM

Apologies
 
Since a lot of people used to call me ... the word I'm not going to say ... I thought they referred to the simple being friendly with children, as I am. I would never hurt one, and I feel ashamed for what I said.

I feel very sorry for spamming around, and I won't do it again. Please, give me another chance. Now that I know that pedophile DOESN'T mean friend of children, but rather rapist and assassin, I will never say it anymore.

Why did I post it into General Jazz Talk? Well, to talk about something that really shocked me and made me not sleep anymore, that I will explain in a single word:

PLAGIARISM

[IMG]http://media.giantbomb.com/uploads/1/17166/1081162-jazz2rats.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://img.brothersoft.com/screenshots/softimage/e/earthworm_jim-154231-1.jpeg[/IMG]

[IMG]http://hardcoregaming101.net/jazzjackrabbit/Jazz%202/JazzJackrabbitII028.png[/IMG]
[IMG]http://www.games4win.com/up/earthworm-jim_2s.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG]http://86bb71d19d3bcb79effc-d9e6924a0395cb1b5b9f03b7640d26eb.r91.cf1.rackcdn.c om/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/jazz-jackrabbit-3d-title-screen.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://www.freeroms.com/roms_screenshot2/n64_earthworm_jim_3d_1.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG]http://www.jazz2online.com/media/nodes/partyMode/electro.gif[/IMG]
[IMG]http://hardcoregaming101.net/earthwormjim/ewj2-4.png[/IMG]

NOT ONLY I didn't see any progress on Jazz Jackrabbit since 1997, but now I realize it is a THOROUGH clone of Earthworm Jim. I love the Jazz Jackrabbit character in itself, but Earthworm Jim is makes me vomit! It's awful!

And there are also bits of Rayman, The Lion King, Donkey Kong and Sonic.

However, from now on, I will do my best to SUPPORT the community instead of complaining much and doing nothing.

If I somehow broke a rule through my words, feel free to punish me. It will mean I deserve it.

And thanks not for doing like those at ddrplanet.it, who gave me a "15 days ban" that lasted FOREVER (3 years with now). You are coherent ones.

Ninja Jan 14, 2013 01:26 AM

you're weird, disturbing, and if I had kids somewhere and found out you moved there, you'd have to go.

DennisKainz Jan 14, 2013 10:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ninja (Post 477619)
you're weird, disturbing, and if I had kids somewhere and found out you moved there, you'd have to go.

Good thing you don't have kids then! With all respect, that is.

burnout92 Jan 14, 2013 12:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gus (Post 477614)
Since a lot of people used to call me ... the word I'm not going to say ... I thought they referred to the simple being friendly with children, as I am. I would never hurt one, and I feel ashamed for what I said.

I feel very sorry for spamming around, and I won't do it again. Please, give me another chance. Now that I know that pedophile DOESN'T mean friend of children, but rather rapist and assassin, I will never say it anymore.

Why did I post it into General Jazz Talk? Well, to talk about something that really shocked me and made me not sleep anymore, that I will explain in a single word:

PLAGIARISM

[IMG]http://media.giantbomb.com/uploads/1/17166/1081162-jazz2rats.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://img.brothersoft.com/screenshots/softimage/e/earthworm_jim-154231-1.jpeg[/IMG]

[IMG]http://hardcoregaming101.net/jazzjackrabbit/Jazz%202/JazzJackrabbitII028.png[/IMG]
[IMG]http://www.games4win.com/up/earthworm-jim_2s.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG]http://86bb71d19d3bcb79effc-d9e6924a0395cb1b5b9f03b7640d26eb.r91.cf1.rackcdn.c om/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/jazz-jackrabbit-3d-title-screen.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://www.freeroms.com/roms_screenshot2/n64_earthworm_jim_3d_1.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG]http://www.jazz2online.com/media/nodes/partyMode/electro.gif[/IMG]
[IMG]http://hardcoregaming101.net/earthwormjim/ewj2-4.png[/IMG]

NOT ONLY I didn't see any progress on Jazz Jackrabbit since 1997, but now I realize it is a THOROUGH clone of Earthworm Jim. I love the Jazz Jackrabbit character in itself, but Earthworm Jim is makes me vomit! It's awful!

And there are also bits of Rayman, The Lion King, Donkey Kong and Sonic.

However, from now on, I will do my best to SUPPORT the community instead of complaining much and doing nothing.

If I somehow broke a rule through my words, feel free to punish me. It will mean I deserve it.

And thanks not for doing like those at ddrplanet.it, who gave me a "15 days ban" that lasted FOREVER (3 years with now). You are coherent ones.

Maybe you will not like what I say, but I should give him another chance. At least in my opinion. Plagiarism is the great sin I know, but you should forgive him. Anyway, it was a development of the game, such as Jazz Jackrabbit 1.23 patch and a variety of programs and mods to be downloaded. Upsets the common heaven hurt someone. I do not want to ban him. It is a site you need to know Commodity tolerate stupidity of the other, even if it is a large orbital. At least I think so too, if someone speaks against feel free to do so. Gus! Bound by the promises or not? Anyway, I have to say nasty things when I'm nervous.

snzspeed Jan 14, 2013 03:29 PM

Similiarities like those cant really be called as plagiarism...

Slaz Jan 15, 2013 06:49 AM

Why spray out so much tense emotion on a public message board a.k.a web forum a.k.a bulletin board? 8D

And for the similarities between JJ2 and Earthworm Jim. Well, it's been compared using text and image many times by now, I believe there's not much else to say/note about it. Nick based the tilesets on concepts from similar games, Jazz himself is based on Bucky O' Hare, etc etc.

Perhaps the most original aspect in JJ2 is the music. Alexander Brandon is such a legend, he probably got most inspiration out of mere emotion.. And the theme of the level. :D

WhiteBlaster Jan 15, 2013 07:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slaz (Post 477632)
Perhaps the most original aspect in JJ2 is the music. Alexander Brandon is such a legend, he probably got most inspiration out of mere emotion.. And the theme of the level. :D

Totally agree. What a musician!

burnout92 Jan 15, 2013 01:00 PM

Slaz! You're absolutely right about that. Your feelings do not show up, because they might be heckling and violate you. Anyway, the games will always be compared to each other, to learn about what inspired or copy of a game that for marketing purposes, if it goes wrong you can go in the bin. Therefore, similar to the two-game, because they did not want to fail in the sales statistics. Besides Alexander Brandon is the all time best game music creator. I love to listen to music from Jazz Jackrabbit 2.

Sucer Jan 16, 2013 04:37 AM

I want to apologize for all the times I've been saying "kurwa" in public servers. I am so sorry :(

i:m Jan 16, 2013 07:26 AM

i will never forgive gus, my children cry hard when anyone says his name

burnout92 Jan 16, 2013 12:00 PM

Why do you think Gus would be a pedophile? From being friends with children does not mean that it would be a pedophile. Only if you tell him he could rape them.

Grytolle Jan 16, 2013 03:07 PM

Judge for yourself, Burnout92:
http://www.jazz2online.com/jcf/showp...&postcount=299

burnout92 Jan 17, 2013 08:54 AM

Okay Grytolle. You're right, but non-sexual way, but in a romantic way pedophiles (although it is interesting to me, because if someone pedophile just only sexual way).

CrimiClown Jan 17, 2013 08:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by burnout92 (Post 477675)
Okay Grytolle. You're right, but non-sexual way, but in a romantic way pedophiles (although it is interesting to me, because if someone pedophile just only sexual way).

Not to defend Gus or pedophiles or anything, but being a pedophile doesn't mean you're focused on sex alone.

Anyway, Gus, try to keep a cool head this time. Don't get overly emotional or attached to a bunny game forum.

burnout92 Jan 18, 2013 11:24 AM

Thanks CrimiClown the information in connection with the pedophile. So I want to apologize to the my last post.

ShadowGPW Jan 19, 2013 02:42 PM

It's not stealing, it was an homage:

To Quote Nick Stadler from my old interview: ( http://www.jazz2online.com/news/679/...-nick-stadler/ )
"I still couldn’t grasp at the time, how to take my freehand drawing skills and translated them into this entirely new medium. So I studied the tilesets of games I admired. I adored the artwork of EWJ and Lion King and Toe Jam & Earl, and Cool Spot, etc…"

burnout92 Jan 19, 2013 03:37 PM

So it is not plagiarism suspicious similarity between the two games? Nick Stadler did good work.

!Tman! Feb 3, 2013 06:38 PM

What direction would you like it to go in Stijn? If you ask me this whole post should be deleted... Jazz2 was my childhood game and your supporting this?

burnout92 Feb 4, 2013 12:21 AM

Stijn's right for having deleted the posts, because this is a bad direction of this thread. Gus expressed his apologies. I liked the game when I was a child I played lot of with Jazz2. I will support you, but don't say any non-sense thing. Okay?

Stijn Feb 4, 2013 01:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by !Tman! (Post 477958)
Jazz2 was my childhood game and your supporting this?

Don't be ridiculous.

On further thought, there's no way this will end nicely, so I'm closing the thread. Jj2's similarities to other games havebeen discussed to death before (just search for "lion king") and I can't see Gus' apology, whatever its worth, generate any more response than thinky veiled threats and insults.


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