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Trafton Mar 13, 2003 12:35 PM

Locking Post About the Poster Above You?
 
"Post About the Poster Above You" is less than two hundred replies away from the 10,000th reply. I think that the 10,000th reply would be an appropriate time to lock it.

While it is true that PATPAY makes up a lot of the posting on this message board, it's really getting old. If you look in it today, it really is not a game anymore as much as a place where members can just chat about anything they wish. Because of the sheer number of posts, a lot of stuff that would normally be edited is missed. After all, it takes a long time to sort out all of the off-topicness there to find posts that need editing, and no one actually really wants to carefully read everything there.

My point is that I think PATPAY should be closed at 10,000 posts. In fact, I think it should have been closed much earlier, but 10,000 is a good and significant point to close it. With the new Word Association topic being started up, there are a lot of forum games in Misc. While I am sure that a new PATPAY will just be started right back up, having the original rest in peace at 10,000 would be nice. Also, I like the idea of having a limit on the number of posts in forum game topics in a certain amount of time.

In my opinion, Post About the Poster Above You has worn out its welcome and is now deteriorating into little more than an incomprehensible mess of senseless posts.

Fawriel Mar 13, 2003 12:53 PM

NO! NEVER! >_<

Radium Mar 13, 2003 01:01 PM

BUT WHAT WILL PICCOLO AND I DO THEN?

Fawriel Mar 13, 2003 01:23 PM

*plans a new game with no sense whatsoever*;_;

Radium Mar 13, 2003 01:31 PM

PATPAY FOREVER! PATPAY WILL NEVER DIE!

Fawriel Mar 13, 2003 01:35 PM

GET UP,STAND UP.....STAND UP FOR YOUR RIGHTS!
GET UP,STAND UP....DON'T GIVE UP THE FIGHT!

n0 Mar 13, 2003 01:39 PM

Bandwith on J2O is getting low, maybe we could have it deleted. That would save about 10,000 posts worth of space!

`N0

Iam Canadian Mar 13, 2003 02:27 PM

I don't see how deleting one topic is going to help the JCF's bandwidth transfer any. :p

Trafton Mar 13, 2003 02:42 PM

I don't think deletion is a great idea, but that's just me. Instead, I think it should be closed to avoid such posts as "PATPAY FOREVER". Honestly, if you really care about the thread, try to back it up here by supplying good reasons why it should remain open as opposed to "OMG DONT CLOSE IT PLZ KTHX =)".

KRSplat Mar 13, 2003 03:01 PM

I disagree. If it is closed, people will just make more topics like it. There is no point.

Okay, maybe not. What would be better to reduce spam is the administrators focusing less on things like warez or anything that has to do with JJ3D (I find it absurd that we are not allowed to talk about the unfinished sequel to JJ2 on JJ2 forums) and start focusing more on closing topics that are spam. Spam is bad.

Violet CLM Mar 13, 2003 05:50 PM

I fully support closing PATPAY, and all the other word games as well.

Radium Mar 13, 2003 06:14 PM

BUT PATPAY IS OUR FRIEND!!!

Iam Canadian Mar 13, 2003 07:36 PM

PATPAY is like a drug. It feels good, but slowly destroys your mind. :p

Radium Mar 14, 2003 05:20 AM

But people like Piccolo and I have practically spent our life in that thread! We grew up there! Look at Pic, he's posted there almost 2.5 thousand times! WHY MAKE ALL THAT GOOD SPAM GO TO WASTE?!?

STAND UP FOR THE SPAM EMPIRE! DO NOT FORCE THEM AWAY FROM THE PATPAY LANDS ON WHICH THEY WERE BORN!

Fawriel Mar 14, 2003 05:25 AM

What Radium said!:p

The PatPay is like a home,theme-parc,a place wher you can go and goof around,etc.
And a source of great fun as well!:D
I laughed my head off when Derby came and kept moderating stuff with smiies! =)> :D
Think about all us poor guys who have no life and only stay online all day,waiting for something to be posted,and NO MORE PATPAY where there's a new page daily... ;_;

Tik Mar 14, 2003 05:36 AM

I have enjoyed Patpay since this new school year began, it has, if you'll believe it, helped me through a lot of boring school days. However, I realize how much everyone else hates the forum games, so despite how I would love for it to stay open, if it is closed at 10,000 posts I will not complain (to your face). Seriously, I have made friends in that game =P

And there are still threads we can post senseless stuff. Revive my "The Stupid Game" thread.

Ninja Mar 14, 2003 09:45 AM

But..me, picco, radium, and desprodel are teh livez there! you cant destroy our home! =( what we do, guys? =((((((((((

Fawriel Mar 14, 2003 06:30 PM

My life is slowly falling apart...
I can see it....
Piece by piece..
My home...where is it...
I can't enter it any more..
What's blocking my way...
What the heck..
It's a dancing Fishy?

Disguise Mar 14, 2003 06:33 PM

SSF
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Piccolo
...What's blocking my way...
What the heck..
It's a dancing Fishy?

Hahhahahha, that's good ;) :D

Fawriel Mar 14, 2003 06:34 PM

Daaaaaaaaaang,Fishy...you SCARED me...^^;;;;;;;;

Radium Mar 14, 2003 07:31 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Ninja
But..me, picco, radium, and desprodel are teh livez there! you cant destroy our home! =( what we do, guys? =((((((((((
GRAB YER SWORDS, WE'RE GOING TO WAR! PATPAY MUST NOT FALL!
Though I somewhat dislike the idea of going to war on the same side as Faw and the hippy guy..

KRSplat Mar 14, 2003 07:57 PM

I think that there is really no reason to close it. It is like a place where you can pretty much say whatever you want without getting in trouble. If you don't like reading that stuff, you know that it is there so you don't have to look at it.

Trafton Mar 14, 2003 08:05 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by KRSplat
I think that there is really no reason to close it. It is like a place where you can pretty much say whatever you want without getting in trouble. If you don't like reading that stuff, you know that it is there so you don't have to look at it.
But some things that are said there are against the message board. That does not make any sense. It's good to keep all topics under the same set of rules.

Fawriel Mar 14, 2003 09:13 PM

Over...and out...

Fine.
FINE!
Take it all away from me.
Wheeeeeeee,boredom I'm coming,now I have more timeto think about all my problems,what a luck!

Trafton Mar 14, 2003 09:16 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Piccolo
Over...and out...

Fine.
FINE!
Take it all away from me.
Wheeeeeeee,boredom I'm coming,now I have more timeto think about all my problems,what a luck!

Pic, some things I suggest:
1) Play JJ2.
2) Play another game.
3) As a last resort, restart the thread...but don't...bah. It's your decision, I suppose.

Fawriel Mar 14, 2003 09:17 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Trafton
Pic, some things I suggest:
1) Play JJ2.
2) Play another game.
3) As a last resort, restart the thread...but don't...bah. It's your decision, I suppose.

1)No...
2)Naah...
3)Okay.

Fawriel Mar 14, 2003 09:26 PM

Hah,niiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiice,FINE job,admin-people,you proud now to tur this forum into a lot of serious stuff about one third of the community replies to at all?
Way to get new members!

VelKa Mar 14, 2003 09:26 PM

SOLUTION: PLAY UT2K3.

Fawriel Mar 14, 2003 09:29 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Agent Megumi
SOLUTION: PLAY UT2K3.
ANSWER:NO.

Trafton Mar 14, 2003 09:29 PM

Many users resent topics such as this because they have morphed from topics into little more than spam. There is no structure, nor is there any longer any sort of game in play at all. While the idea of having a public chatting forum may be a good one, please do it elsewhere. If you are not looking for discussion, and are instead looking for spam, I think you overestimate how many people are with you - I'm sure that 1/3 of the message board will not leave just because one thread is closed.

Fawriel Mar 14, 2003 09:34 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Trafton
I'm sure that 1/3 of the message board will not leave just because one thread is closed.
Two.

And what was the argument AGAINST the thread?
Look atstuff like Monty Python.
No structure.Just fun.
Maybe it wasn't all fun we had in the PatPay game.
But you certainly can't tell people"You weren't funny enough! Your post will be deleted!"
Yes,I don't like it either that sometimes there are real rush-hours in which everybody's just racing for the 10,000th post or whatever.
But there sure would be a way to stop that,too.
And apart from that,it's really hilarious how you admins(+Trafton and Velk) want to prevent spam by posting spam yourself...ANYONE WANT ANTI-SPAM SANDWHICH?

Trafton Mar 14, 2003 09:41 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Piccolo
Two.

And what was the argument AGAINST the thread?
Look atstuff like Monty Python.
No structure.Just fun.
Maybe it wasn't all fun we had in the PatPay game.
But you certainly can't tell people"You weren't funny enough! Your post will be deleted!"
Yes,I don't like it either that sometimes there are real rush-hours in which everybody's just racing for the 10,000th post or whatever.
But there sure would be a way to stop that,too.
And apart from that,it's really hilarious how you admins(+Trafton and Velk) want to prevent spam by posting spam yourself...ANYONE WANT ANTI-SPAM SANDWHICH?

The difference between the spam that is posted in PATPAY and that of which we have posted is quite noticable. First of all, there are 10,000 messages in PATPAY. We have not posted 10,000 spam messages. In addition, the messages did carry a point, though they did not exactly express them clearly. Forum games are fine - in moderation. 10,000 posts is not moderation. Nor is it appropriate when people delete posts, push, and shove in order to achieve the 10,000th post - that is the worst sort of spam. Anyone is capable of expressing their opinions on constructive subjects, after all. The only difference between these spammy forum games and normal topics is that posting a lot, whether the content of the post is pertinent or not, is held in higher regard than the actual posting quality. When this occurs, the topics become troublesome and "competing" for numbers regarded as significant occurs. This further adds to the quantity of spam, and eventually it becomes acceptable to post in a frenzy with nonsensical content simply to reach these numbers while post quality is ignored. This is the problem. If PATPAY was not a "I'll race you for the 200th post" sort of topic, it would not be as much of a problem. Or at least I do not think it would be (or would have been, as the case may be).

Fawriel Mar 14, 2003 09:54 PM

Well if it's the quantity,that can be helped...
They're suggesting Trafton for a moderator anyways.
So simply make a new forum in the sense of the PatPay game,which is,or should be,simply hanging around,having fun,not thinking about stuff,being senseless,blah.
I do agree on the little moderation,things like Xion's humping smily can easily go unnoticed,and aren't very funny,tasteful or whatever..
Or we could make beforementioned chat forum...could work like the Spam forum at the [TF]-boards,certain amounts of time and all the topc is clear,then time passes,and all is cleared again,and so on.

IS IT THAT HARD?:p

And personally,I find it sad you didn't respond to my"Anti-spam-sanswhich"...that was m,y fav.part of the post!:D

Trafton Mar 14, 2003 09:58 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Piccolo
Well if it's the quantity,that can be helped...
They're suggesting Trafton for a moderator anyways.
So simply make a new forum in the sense of the PatPay game,which is,or should be,simply hanging around,having fun,not thinking about stuff,being senseless,blah.
I do agree on the little moderation,things like Xion's (pancake consuming) smily can easily go unnoticed,and aren't very funny,tasteful or whatever..
Or we could make beforementioned chat forum...could work like the Spam forum at the [TF]-boards,certain amounts of time and all the topc is clear,then time passes,and all is cleared again,and so on.

IS IT THAT HARD?:p

And personally,I find it sad you didn't respond to my"Anti-spam-sanswhich"...that was m,y fav.part of the post!:D

I seriously think that the creation of a spam forum would deteriorate the quality of the JCF. There is no problem creating good, senseful posts if you really try. A spam forum would just be spam - that is not what is needed. Everyone here on this board is smart and plenty capable of conversing in a sense-making way. A spam forum would simply cause more spam, which is not what is needed. Besides, it would be impossible to moderate such a continous stream of nothingness. It just is not a good idea.

Fawriel Mar 14, 2003 10:08 PM

Well you can't FORCE people to make posts of quality.
Also,not EVERYBODY around can hold serious conversations...
(What was this thing about leaving your soul outside in forums?)
It IS possible to catch up with all the posts...
Hm...wouldn't it be possible to have a certain fun-time or something?
A thread is closed outside that time,
and opened when the time starts.
We could have a moderator for that...also,we could increase the limit of time between being allowed to post...
And stuff.
Give semi-warnings for spamming and deleting posts to receive certain posts in a thread.
Do whatever.
Just don't let this forum become Spam-less...you know we don't want that!:(
"Gee...that was schmaltsy!"

Okay,cease fire for now...I'm tired..^^;

Trafton Mar 14, 2003 10:13 PM

I honestly think that it would be a better idea to just give a time-based limit on posts to the forumgame topics, or possibly by username, and only have one of each kind (so no "Post About the Poster Above You III Ultimate Gold Plus EcoPro Edition").

Radium Mar 14, 2003 10:13 PM

GASP! PATPAY HAS BEEN... LOCKED! BY DIZZY!

YOU WILL PAY FOR THIS, GINGERBREAD MAN!

Fawriel Mar 14, 2003 10:18 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Trafton
I honestly think that it would be a better idea to just give a time-based limit on posts to the forumgame topics, or possibly by username, and only have one of each kind (so no "Post About the Poster Above You III Ultimate Gold Plus EcoPro Edition").
Nobody had several threads at a time..
I made the Platinum version to be your suggested"New thread" ;b
And rest is okay.

But it does bug me I get no comment on mah anti-spam sandwhich...

Iam Canadian Mar 14, 2003 10:51 PM

[IMG]http://image1ex.villagephotos.com/1844182.jpg[/IMG]

There. That's my PATPAY memorial. I'm done. :p

Spotinik Mar 15, 2003 07:44 AM

I have read this by now...
well, PatPay has been the most fun topic...when I was bored, i was going to it all the time....when DA becomes down , and other forums too...so yeah, and PatPay was such a funny topic...and closing it is kinda sorta mean....come to think about it, mods and admins, when you have a fav topic on a forum, or a topic that was created by you, and you liked it, and you enjoy it, and...then, someday....BAM! you find the topic closed....either deleted.....what will you do??! either, if you want to close it, close it...but people won't stop making posts to get it back....bring the topic back, and we'll stop doing these 'why pattpay was closed' messages..other than that, people will never stop making game posts and such...
and btw, you're just making boredom returning to us again.,.by closing a great-topic... and heck, too much typing here, so I'll just shut up..
and btw, faw, give me an anti-spam sandiwch :o


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