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Wow, Cliffy, and Dean?

All I can think to say has already been said, so a quick summary of what I would've said:

W00T! THe bandanas goona b back!(if they make jj3)
Hehe, funny pic

Okay, thats all.

EDiT: Oh and : MAKES SOME NOISE!!!

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Whatever the turnout of this is...it has kind of resparked some interest in Jazz2, esp. around here. If you look in General Jazz2 Talk, there are only a few threads with many pages, and this recent news has gotten a few pages of replies in a couple days, not to mention that CliffyB and Noog have replied. Also the other day in #jj2 there were 30-some people, a couple of which were some really old oldbies (for example, AstroniA).

I guess despite the horrible artwork and annoying SW rips, this game is going to kind of bring Jazz back into a spotlight, more or less, which means we'll be growing. Hurray.
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Cliffery B If you really want us to go out there and 'make some noise' will you give us marketing money? Or do you want us to go around telling ppl a game for free?
I know I will.
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Jazz on a console

Honestly I'm against Jazz on a console, but thats aside from the point.

You can't say Rare did anything for the X-Box until it does, and I doubt it will do anything soon. Rare works very slow and never makes a good platform game. Never. I think many Gamecube games have a Jazz look to them. I think Jazz would be great on the Gamecube, but I don't see it on the X-Box. It doesn't fit. X-Box is constantly billed as a system for adults. Nothing that doesn't "look" adult could ever work. The new Zelda? Adults love it, but it doesn't fit the X-Box view of adult games. I don't see any X-Box games I want either. The Gamecube would benefit greatly from an online Jazz game that also connects to the Game Boy. It would be a huge seller. Phantasty Star Online for the Gamecube has lots of Game Boy Advance features that you obviously don't have on the X-Box. Jazz could too.

As for a Jazz on the computer, I only have a few ideas. Make Jazz look like he's always. Make him tote his blaster. Make the Toaster wepon return, and not in the flamethrower form. Make the classic title song return (Like it has in the others). Put the Colony song in it hehehe. Make another bunny to play as (It can rhyme with Lori, or Jazz), but don't do what Sega did to Sonic and overload on characters with no purpose so much) And, besides the inclusion of a comic book, make Jazz like the comic book. In his first comic book, he got into a space ship and flew to plants to gather information about Devon Shell. I think it would be cool to do that, maybe it would be cool. Have a level editor, and perhaps would it be possible to do something where you can't use someone's name if they are playing? I don't know. People think Jazz should be on the X-Box and I don't. Am I just wasting everyone's time?
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I know I will.
You will what? Give us marketing money for word of mouth?

I wonder what I would say to my friends. It would go something like this.

"Hey guys, you gotta get this new game for GBA! It's awsome! It's a green bunny running around killing stuff! But it's even better then that. It's a Star Wars Rip off"

They will would probably say something like.

"Ok, why would I want that?"

Then I would say.

"Yeah let's save are money for beer"

Then they would say.

"Agreed"
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Wow. Cliffyb posted again.

Anyway, I don't particurally care that whole much what Jazz looks like. I'm just satisfied it will be a game using the Jazz engine. I think that Cliffyb is honestly interested with the Jazz project, and we shouldn't use him for a scapegoat for all of our anger. It's not his fault, it's the fault of the finance and marketing branches. I'm sure Cliff really does want JJ3 to come out, and we should be thankful that he actually returned.

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So, what you're saying, Cliff, is that if JJA is popular, Epic might well do a REAL Jazz game?

So now all I have to do is promote its good points and not mention the fact that it has nothing to do with Jazz and is a starwars ripoff. No problem.
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Cliffy, I will probably buy the game when it comes out and I'll make some noise in my way, BUT: could you make some noise too? Once all the hooked JJ GBA fans buy JJ2 they won't be able to play over the internet at all because Epic shut down the main listserver. Maybe, as an Epic employee, you could try to make Epic host the listserver again somehow, or redirect it to jazz.logicware.com(that way Epic won't have to host it). All you need is a slow computer and a basic internet connection.

Then all the newbies will be able to play over the internet again.
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I agree with what FQuist said.

In addition, could you please update jazzjackrabbit.com or let some community reperasentatives help out? It would helps us get more players if that site was live, and we would help spread the word. Plus, with the release of Jazz for Gameboy Advance, you need to update the site anyway. Talk to Jeh about it.
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You will what? Give us marketing money for word of mouth?
Yes, I have that kind of cash no, I meant I would "advertise" for free anyday.
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And I'm with quist also on this one..fix the listserver! :P.

I also believe that open-sourcing of jj2 would do a lot for the popularity of the game (and by extension interest in jj3/3d/GBA). Everyone loves the words "open source"--it would encourage development (bots? mods?) and LOADS of new players. Something could also be built into the game to tell n00bs to come to j2o or *something*

On that note...could you PUH-LEEZE update www.jazzjackrabbit.com?

At least say something to the effect of "go to www.jazz2online.com, because we don't support this game anymore" or ANYTHING (:

Quist is also right in saying that there needs to be some publicity of *some* kind for any upcoming JJ game, be it GBA, PC, or whatever. JJ2 got rave reviews from the critics at the time of release, as I remember (with a few exceptions), but no one heard of it (that and the SP was soo freaking easy--people would give up before getting hooked on the MP (: ).

Perhaps everyone's already seen this :

http://www.austinchronicle.com/issue...s_feature.html

Also--could we get some screenies of a JJ2 GBA? To..generate publicity with..? ;p

Or are they already around and am I missing something? ;p
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I would also like to repeat what Fquist and others have said, please get list.jazzjacrabbit.com back up or forward it to jazz.logicware.com. People who play the game are no longer able to connect to the internet servers without a special patch that fixes the registry.

Paul, I've put all of the JJ2 GBA screenshots that I've seen over on J2O so they can be easily found rather than having to clear cookies and stuff over at IGN.

http://www.jazz2online.com/jazzgba/
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I would also like to repeat what Fquist and others have said, please get list.jazzjacrabbit.com back up or forward it to jazz.logicware.com. People who play the game are no longer able to connect to the internet servers without a special patch that fixes the registry.

Paul, I've put all of the JJ2 GBA screenshots that I've seen over on J2O so they can be easily found rather than having to clear cookies and stuff over at IGN.

http://www.jazz2online.com/jazzgba/
Yes. And, while I know another patch for JJ2 is, well, unlikely, it would be great. But really what we really need is for list.jazzjackrabbit.com to forward to the real list server. This would do wonders for the community. I'm glad to see you are back, and supporting the community. Leave and we release the pictures of you in the bunny suit...THE OTHER ONES. >;-P
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But before doing that, contact jazz.logicware.com and remove the reference to list.jazzjackrabbit.com. An infinite loop-type-thing would not be good.

(Although it would be much better if one just set up a real list server)
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I for one am fine with this make-over. Sure, it's not quite Jazz, but at least people are making a new Jazz game. Somehow, I feel kind of bad for those who have tried to please and then are totally torn down for their efforts.

Cliffy B, you've always been my herrow. Seriously. Ask anyone. Anyway, thanks for finally noticing us!
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Patch

How about a patch so my stupid Fortress level works! Yay! After that level, I got nothing. (Well I do... but then how am I supposed to garner pity?)
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Well, one friend I know who enjoyed Jazz (but doesn't like playing online) dislikes the new look immensly, and that has put him off the GBA game slightly.

I gotta find somewhere that'll let me cash in my GBC so I can get a GBA.

On another note, all people's ideas about a Jazz sequel: Just update the old JJ3 to the Unreal Warfare engine. They're built on the old UT engine after all, and stuff from the old engine can be ported into the new one. Not to mention, all the cool stuff from the old JJ3 would remain.
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CLIFFYB IS TEH SUKC!! JEFFK IS A BETER GAME DESIGER. YUO SUCK!!!1

What's it called, Cliff? Jeff Jackrabbit? JJ: Enter the JeffK?
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Spreading the word about this game and popularizing Jazz2 is always something good. The problem is, a lot of the members of this board have a lot of negative thoughts and animosity towards the developers of jazz2. In their minds, we have been deserted by creators of it. Personally, I'm indifferent towards epic, because I like a lot of their games, but some players of jazz2 really don't like them at all. One primary reason for this is the fact that our listserver was closed down. list.jazzjackrabbit.com stopped working a few years ago, so we had to switch over to jazz.logicware.com, a listserver which can only be accessed if you change your regestry. This means that any new player who somehow "obtains" this game (Jazz2) will probably not be able to play online unless they find this website, and moreso, this forum. That's difficult though, since this site isn't easy to find.

The point I am trying to make is that if a new wave of people becomes interested in Jazz Jackrabbit, they won't be in contact, or even worse, won't even know about us, the jj2 players.
Ok, this gets weirder and weirder. CliffyB (who is < JeffK ) announces Jeff Jackrabbit for GBA and then EvilMike makes a spelling mistake!

I'll go stir up support (or rotten eggs) on the Black Isle Boards. All hail Jeff Jackrabbit!
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Couldnt the makers of that JJ GBA game include a fan-link to this site at credits or so?
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Why would they do that? Why would they WANT to do that? This is the big world, SS. You don't just credit a random site which has nothing to do with the game. Sure, if this was Jazz3D, it might be reasonable... but it's not, so I rule.
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Hye circus person: Why not on the Xbox or PS2? I have both, and both are excellent gaming machines. People complain they don't have the characters and gameplay of Gamecube games, yet you're saying DON'T do it? Why not? I think Jazz would make an awesome cover-dude for Xbox. He could be their Icon.
This seems simple to me, it's clear that Jazz is more game for the GameCube then for PS 2 and X-Box, but I don't have anything against it.

One point, we must get it this way that Jazz GBA will become a good/best seller. If this they will keep creating so we can play Jazz anymore, after this news I decided to get that fricked disk again and play again Now we only have to get J2Ov2 up (Ohw I want to see it ) And all the good old players are coming back so this seems that the community is saved (finally!)!

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Well, at least CliffyB knows most of us aren't too excited about the "new" Jazz Jackrabbit (taken from an XGR.com interview with CliffyB last night at 9:30EST:

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Essentially, Cliffy has this to say about us:

"Jazz is the game that got me moved out of my mother's house ... It has a very special place in my heart ... Uh, yeah, there's actually a lot of controversy in the Jazz fan forms now, I don't know if you've heard ... the look of Jazz and the universe has been modified slightly for the GameBoy version ... and the remaining Jazz fans out there are pretty (-) (-) ... I'm of the belief that I would love to, you know, see Jazz return ..."

The brief Jazz Jackrabbit blurb can be found at about 19:00-19:50 in the mp3.

Thanks for at least taking the time to check up on us and giving us a little shoutout, Cliffy.

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thats cliffy B alright !

Perhaps we should accept that Jazz is now more a Bucky-o-Hare a like Its not the out-side world whats (*) people off its the Rabbit himself.. there is almost notthing of him that reminds me of Jazz accept for the green color...
Nick Stadler, Dean Dodrill where are you! ;_;

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"Jazz is the game that got me moved out of my mothers house ... It has a very special place in my heart ... Uh, yeah, there's actually a lot of controversy in the Jazz fan forms now, I don't know if you've heard ... the look of Jazz and the universe has been modified slightly for the GameBoy version ... and the remaining Jazz fans out there are pretty (-) (-) ... I'm of the belief that I would love to, you know, see Jazz return ..."
I'd like to quote this in Cliff's defence. "We aren't moving away from the fans, we are moving away from losing our jobs.".

Derby: Previous quotation edit.
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What kind of moron puts an mp3 in a zip file?

Edit: I take that back. It's size was reduced by a whole 7% when zipped.
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IGN has posted an article regarding a new Jazz Jackrabbit game on the Gameboy Advance. I was surprised to see this as I haven't really been following Jazz for some time. It's cool to see the franchise coming back, and I'd love to see great things happen. Jazz has taken a slight redesign but the game seems to retain all that is great about the series. I love my Gameboy Advance, and now have a new title on my shopping list. To read all about it, click here. For those who don't know, I've been rather fond of the character since I had the wonderful opportunity to work with the team that created the sequel.
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What kind of moron puts an mp3 in a zip file?
Yeah, doesn't make much sense since an mp3 is already compressed but it did save 1MB+ so what the heck. What did it take, 2 seconds to unzip?
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Well, I'm saying this...

CLIFFERY B YOU SELLOUT YOU!

Fi><0RS JAZZ TEH JACKRABBIT!

FI><0RS NOT RIPOFFORS!

Don't make me post the pic again.



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I'm just happy to see some motion, development-wise, in the Jazz world. He can leave the headband off, for all I care. Don't get me wrong....I think Jazz is great the way he is. But I think it's even better to have some sort of a new jj game. :P
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NO! FI><0RS TEH JAZZ JACKRABBIT NOW PLZ!!!11 dog.
I agree. Even more so with the. dog. part.
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No dog kthx~
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I don't particularly like what I see about Jazz, but I'll say what I said on J2o:

CELDA

(Edit: Continuation. I didn't know how to get rid of that huge font size I accidentally made, so I restarted my browser.)

JAZZ IN SSB!

I would not like to see Jazz on Xbox. I hate Xbox, but that's just me.

Of course I'll get Jazz on GBA. I have GBA anyway, it's not like I'm getting it just for Jazz.
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I think most people hate Xboxs cos they don't have one. I mean really, they're great systems. I don't get what people have a problem with them. Sure, the controls were really awkward, but other controlers have been put out now. The graphical capabilities are unrivled, and some absolutely stunning games are in the makings (Fable (aka Project Ego) is one of the best looking games I've ever seen, in terms of gameplay/character stuff as well as graphics).
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FI><0RS TEH JACKRABBIT IN TEH NAME OF PAGE 3 I JUST CLAIMED!!!
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OH NO! NOT ANOTHER ONE!!!1 dog.

NOW FI><0RS IT PLZ NOW THX!!!!1

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