Originally Posted by Fawriel

And I still didn't receive any constructive help from anyone.

Yes you did. Nobody said "Who is the girl in the sweater supposed to be", which is a huge complement. Nobody could understand what the trees/magic were, and some people drew parallels to Sven from QC.

People's first reactions are much more telling than what they say when you ask for them to tear something apart.

Originally Posted by Valco

I OWN YOU WITH MY


EDIT: I know it's really amazing, but I DID make this myself. All art takes is a little patience.

drawing with mouse in paint is not fun

I thought this was RadFaw Wars, not Everyone Wars.

Originally Posted by Stijn

I thought this was RadFaw Wars, not Everyone Wars.

Originally Posted by Radium

While Faw is busy fawwing I challenge anyone else who wants to accept to an ART BATTLE.

Though the busy part is now over. STOP INTERRUPTING. D:

art is all about the proffesional people who are EDUCATED AND WENT TO ART SCHOOL FOR 4 YEARS drawing VERY PRECISE pictures, not about SIMPLE PEOPLE sharing drawings for FUN.

your PATHETIC attempts to mimic the HOLY ART disrupts the o-great-and-mighty ARTISTS.

Originally Posted by IconGuy

art is all about the proffesional people who are EDUCATED AND WENT TO ART SCHOOL FOR 4 YEARS drawing VERY PRECISE pictures, not about SIMPLE PEOPLE sharing drawings for FUN.

your PATHETIC attempts to mimic the HOLY ART disrupts the o-great-and-mighty ARTISTS.

I love you so much. Hahahaha.

Anyway, for the record I'll probably only respond to Trog and Faw since they were the quickest to jump on the bandwagon. Well, Trog was, but I'm kind of obliged to respond to Faw too. Sorry guys!

ButButBut I was/am stuck with the faw-like excuse of having to finish an animation for class.

As you guys have seen, I'm fast, but not a really good artist. I'd be willing to resign, or fight someone else in a diffrent thread if I'm distracting Radium from drawing to full potential. However, I'll also be happy to provide the sideshow of me being demolished and continue the war.

Originally Posted by Troglobite

As you guys have seen, I'm fast, but not a really good artist. I'd be willing to resign, or fight someone else in a diffrent thread if I'm distracting Radium from drawing to full potential. However, I'll also be happy to provide the sideshow of me being demolished and continue the war.

No, no problem here, I love a challenge =P. And I really need practice prioritizing. I was halfway through my response to you when I realized "wait, there's no time limit on this one but the response to Faw's is due today" and I've been working on the Faw one ever since.

Ideally I think I'll try to fix it so I'm responding to you while Faw's drawing his response; that way I never slide back from being out of practice.

Comic done. Eirru evidently doesn't care about what Faw has to say, or if she is distracting him or not.

Forewarning, it's probably not child appropriate. If anyone has complaints I'll put it behind a link.

I'm not sure if making her fight naked was ultimately such a good idea. Especially due to the action poses, that makes her look pretty awkward in most panels.

... of course that also means I'll have a harder time with it.

That said: OH CRAP ARE THREE DAYS OVER ALREADY BUT I JUST GOT A COLD AND IT FEELS LIKE A DAY AGO AND okay done I go to work now, yes?

Now you have to cover her (-)(-)(-)(-)(-) every panel.

I cannot believe you churned this out of that sketch so quickly. I am in awe. Had no idea you pulled all-nighters like that. You'd fit right in at art school.

The colors are great. John K.'s wisdom has not been lost on you.

Eirru's frame and build are too masculine in a lot of panels, even for a warrior woman, which is weird because she was practically naked before and you didn't seem to have any trouble with that. In the "too much talk, fighting now" panel her arms are way too thick (is thick the right word here? bah) even though you did give her a nice smooth shoulder, and her jawline is missing. There really needs to be something to define her jawbone there, especially since if you draw it properly it will help to suggest her femininity. She looks really unfinished there and it reminds me of something but for the life of me I can't think of what. =/ Second-to-the-last panel has similar problems; positioning her hair over her back was a mistake because now we can't tell if she's skinny, fat or what. It's like I said about the silhouette thing, except this is a little worse because it's still confusing even when you have all the information. Also, the perspective in that panel isn't very good, but I know you have trouble with that. For some reason I think you could have drawn a kick there better than a punch, and it would have been much easier to identify, too. I LOVE how Faw looks in that panel, though. Having his shirt come up and reveal some skin as he leans back was a good move, it really accentuates what's happening. Maybe it was an obvious thing to do, but I can't think of many times I'm seen anyone draw that, so yeah.

In the faceplant panel Faw's outline looks wiggly; I think you overdid the ear fluff. Showing a bit of his legs there would probably have been good, like instead of showing just his head hitting the floor you had his lower body landing with it. I'm pretty sure he could fall that way if he was spinning at the right speed. People falling head-first onto the ground like that is something you almost never see in real life (maybe on 4chan or something) so it's hard to not make it look awkward, especially with a character whose anatomy is fairly realistic.

All of Faw's expressions are hilarious and awesome. I'm guessing Eirru is supposed to be less expressive and more serious, but I really liked Faw's face in nearly every panel.

Not much else to say. The panel where she's tripping him is really good; their poses suggest movement well and it was the time you were most successful at making Eirru look strong but still totally female.

Aaand the backgrounds are weak but you know that. Time probably had something to do with it. No trees anywhere. Bob Ross would be appalled.

I'm sorry I didn't point all this out during sketchphase, but this stuff just isn't as obvious until the whole thing is done and can no longer be saved. Still a good punch, though.

Dev, why do you need to see details that tell her gender or 'femininity'? I think it's pretty obvious.

Nice comic, but don't overdo it! I still got intergalactic credits wagered over Faw. D:

Originally Posted by CrimiClown

Dev, why do you need to see details that tell her gender or 'femininity'? I think it's pretty obvious.

Obviously yeah, she's a female, but in some panels she looks more fem than in others. Inconsistency in the character model is best avoided when possible.

I lol'd at the dead fox and Faw's speech bubbles.

Just noticed we don't see her taking her gloves off.

Originally Posted by CrimiClown

Dev, do you need details that tell her gender or 'femininity'? I think her big (-)(-)(-)(-)(-) can help you finsing out.

I wanted to say that

Originally Posted by Dev

Obviously yeah, she's a female, but in some panels she looks more fem than in others. Inconsistency in the character model is best avoided when possible.

Yeah, I know, I just wanted to be the first one to make a corny joke about her breasts and naked-being.

Originally Posted by Dev

I'm sorry I didn't point all this out during sketchphase, but this stuff just isn't as obvious until the whole thing is done and can no longer be saved. Still a good punch, though.

This is a suckface attitude, Dev! You're forgetting I'm a vector specialist; I just went back and fixed like half the stuff you brought up. Thanks for the pointers.

Originally Posted by Dev

I cannot believe you churned this out of that sketch so quickly.

It took me hours D=. Next time remind me the floodfill tool exists for a reason; for some reason I thought my lines were disconnected enough that it'd be time beneficial to draw in the colors by hand as opposed to just closing the gaps in the lines and floodfilling them.

Originally Posted by Dev

Obviously yeah, she's a female, but in some panels she looks more fem than in others. Inconsistency in the character model is best avoided when possible.

I swear I cannot get her to look like the same person between two panels. I like to think I'm getting closer, though, and by the next comic she may actually be solidified.

Originally Posted by Dev

Aaand the backgrounds are weak but you know that. Time probably had something to do with it. No trees anywhere. Bob Ross would be appalled.

Hah, admittedly here I was trying to stay consistent to the environment Faw made. I think the tree is in another room. I'd love to do some more complex backgrounds, but the only environments I ever draw are either ruined stone buildings or large trees, and the setting of this comic evidently doesn't really expand my horizons any.

Over on Trogside I've been having some fun trying to draw convincing tanks, though.

Originally Posted by IconGuy

Just noticed we don't see her taking her gloves off.

I actually forgot she had gloves until I already had most of it inked (admittedly, they are very forgettable. Faw forgot about them too). I like to think it's implied enough that she took them off while Faw was talking in panel 7.

Originally Posted by Radium

Hah, admittedly here I was trying to stay consistent to the environment Faw made. I think the tree is in another room. I'd love to do some more complex backgrounds, but the only environments I ever draw are either ruined stone buildings or large trees, and the setting of this comic evidently doesn't really expand my horizons any.

Not to be a (-)(-)(-)(-)(-)(-)(-)(-), but you have only yourself to blame for that one. =P Personally I would have been happier with a non-ruin environment - at least that would've given me some practice for stuff I'll actually draw in the future, yes? But oh well.
Of course, I'm to blame for the tree, but I just really wanted to subvert the expectations you were trying to build up. ^^

And, yes, the tree is in another room. I should've given you a description of the next room because it would've made for a much more interesting setting, but given your time restrictions, I guess you wouldn't have used it anyway... and given my restrictions, I evidently won't, either. Maybe for the final comic, yes?

Originally Posted by Radium

I actually forgot she had gloves until I already had most of it inked (admittedly, they are very forgettable. Faw forgot about them too).

Lies!

And by "Lies!" I mean "I read your comic and was like OH SHI-" SO err yeah.

Though I had no problem imagining her taking off the gloves off-screen.

Originally Posted by Dev

The colors are great. John K.'s wisdom has not been lost on you.

John K. is a master on color?
The man can be considered close to an expert on some things (such as timing) when you remove the forum troll esque attitude that is wrapped around almost everything he says, but I've never considered color to be one of them.

Originally Posted by n00b

John K. is a master on color?
The man can be considered close to an expert on some things (such as timing) when you remove the forum troll esque attitude that is wrapped around almost everything he says, but I've never considered color to be one of them.

This is actually sort of an inside reference. Rad was reading John K.'s blog one time and one of the things the guy complained about was that modern animators have no unity in their color schemes, which inspired Rad to experiment with such things. I know what you mean, though, in his own work John K. never seemed to care about that stuff, so it's strange that he thinks other people should.

Not to hijack the thread, but I thought it would be cool to "Up the ante" a little bit...



Not my better works, and If I stepped over some boundry, I'll remove it...

Cute.

This could either be a cue for NovaStar to make Cori fight those guys, or ... well, something to face after the duel.

Two battles at once is enough for me, really. I'll gladly respond to Puffie's in my response to Faw's, but it will be a total cop-out response and probably not up the ante much.

Though I admit I was a bit disappointed when I saw the picture was was like "Faw responded already! And he's doing digital art!" but then it wasn't.

My response will be late. I didn't do any work besides gathering ideas on the first day because I was recovering from the cold, then it turned out the next day that I was too depressed to do anything, and now here I am. Though I must say I'm surprised by how much I managed to do in a few hours. Unless something stupid happens again, the response will be ready tomorrow.

Oh, and after that, it's voting time. If the result is clear, the winner is decided and gets to draw the victory comic.

I was thinking more like the "Get the battle done before the area get vaporized" kind of deal to up the ante, but If you want to take on the rabbits, go ahead

Originally Posted by Fawriel

Cute.

This could either be a cue for NovaStar to make Cori fight those guys, or ... well, something to face after the duel.

Damnit, but I was going to use my newest mega-awesome terror that will mortify you and make your blood run cold!

*silently weeps and reaches for a pencil and paper*

You can do whatever you want, dear. Cori just seemed appropriate because she's, you know. There.

Originally Posted by NovaStar

Damnit, but I was going to use my newest mega-awesome terror that will mortify you and make your blood run cold!

*silently weeps and reaches for a pencil and paper*

=D Do something awesome!

... Well that came totally out of left field!


So, this is the second night I've spent up until 3-4 am working on this thing.
There are some parts in this that I'm proud of. I penciled some nice stuff and had some good ideas. But in the end, it all kind of drowned in the mediocrity of the rest. Some of which stems from inexperience, the other from, well, the fact that I really can't be bothered to try correcting anything anymore. Still, I made mistakes that I can learn from, so, hey. EXP is EXP.


You may now cast your votes.
If the winner becomes clear from the votes alone, they... win.
If the difference in votes is not great enough yet, another round shall be done.

Choo-choo. Ten points to Hufflepuff!

Spirit bomb?
(-)(-)(-)(-). Gonna have to wait 5 episodes of charging before we get back to the action.

So I am assuming that Faw is going for the "the spaceships can't blow up my temple if I blow it up myself first" approach?

You get continuity points for having him pick up the glasses in the first panel =D.

Also, you posted this RIGHT after I got a haircut. If you'd been a bit earlier I would've written "Rad ♥ :D ♥" on a shirt and taken a picture of myself mimicking that panel perfectly. I can't do the arcing bangs anymore, though.

EDIT: question, though. Why did she wait through that entire song while he made a glowy?

Well, obviously, she was surrounded by the choir girls. She could have killed them, I suppose... but it would not have helped, because it's an intrinsic law of the universe that you can't walk over corpses no matter what.

The chargey ball is readily charged. She didn't stop him because he's been hiding it in front of himself, and the voices and spotlights acted as a diversion.
And those aren't hearts on the shirt. They're thumbs ups. Because.
Uh.

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Haha, I really love how her breasts are censored in the second picture. Awesome!

For the rest: I'm not in the state of being a relevant art critic anytime soon, but what I can say is that you've quite improved over the years. You got a nice style and I like that, your faces are especially good. I also like how the Fawriel character is so calm and carefree all the time.

*edit*

As for the vote... hm, I haven't yet decided. I like both, but I'm not yet sure which is better.

My vote will have to wait 'til tomorrow. I seriously have to overthink the pros and cons of both artists. It's gonna be a close call.

Also where can I buy that Rad shirt?

Originally Posted by Fawriel

The chargey ball is readily charged. She didn't stop him because he's been hiding it in front of himself, and the voices and spotlights acted as a diversion.

But I mean, why did everyone just start standing there because Faw and the little girls were talking? I'm not sure that made sense to me, and I want to make sure I'm not missing something obvious D=

The randomness broke her brain.