Oh no, then people will feel less inclined to join D=

Shuriken dramatically slices the box (5 damage)

Shuriken: Attack box.
Everyone else: Defend.

Shuriken dramatically slices the box (5 damage)
Scholar Sam defends
Faw/Uberbob defends
Fooruman/Canoe defends
Grandma Conquista defends
Perfect Solstice defends
ICE HYDRA defends

Can we dispell Solstice's Legacy?

Originally Posted by BoggyB

Can we dispell Solstice's Legacy?

No. I put somewhere it was dispellproof. You can only delay its casting, really.

Good guys: kill the bad guys

Fooruman: Ramming speed on Aegis.
Bob/Faw: Attack Aegis.
Grandma: NE towards Aegis.
Sam: Defend.
Shuriken: Attack box.

For real:
Bob/Faw: NW, W, attack Solstice.
Fooruman: Ramming speed, attack Solstice.
Grandma: W.
Sam: S, SW.
Shuriken: Attack box.

I like Aegis' plan.

Uberbob slaps and Faw stabs Perfect Solstice (2 damage)
Fooruman kicks his canoe into RAMMING SPEED!
Fooruman and his canoe fight Perfect Solstice. Mainly the canoe. (3 damage)
Shuriken dramatically slices the box (5 damage)
A guy in a flying sled crashes into Faw/Uberbob, badly knocking our poor hero off of balance
Frosty thorns tear into Faw/Uberbob's skin! (14 damage)
Faw/Uberbob is bitten by an ICE HYDRA! (12 damage)
Faw/Uberbob dies

Fooruman: Heal on Shuriken, attack Solstice.
Grandma: Defend.
Sam and Shuriken: Attack box.

The canoe uses its AMAZING HEALING POWERS to heal Shuriken (15 health restored)
Fooruman and his canoe fight Perfect Solstice. Mainly the canoe. (5 damage)
Shuriken dramatically slices the box (5 damage)
Sam kicks the box. (3 damage)
Grandma Conquista defends
Frosty thorns tear into Fooruman/Canoe's skin! (14 damage)
Fooruman/Canoe is bitten by an ICE HYDRA! (12 damage)
Fooruman/Canoe dies

This isn't right... Look:

Originally Posted by Risp_old

Also, it might be helpful to know that legacy allows Solstice to teleport. It doesn't just give him infinate movement. He can go to any open spot on the map (except one surrounded on all 8 sides by people or corpses).

Solstice and ICE HYDRA were completely surrounded by corpses, a statue, the impenetrable edge of the map, and Fooruman. In other words, Grandma and Fooruman are surrounded by corpses, a statue, Sam and the edge of the map.

On all eight sides by corpses, I said. When I said that, I meant that there has to be a corpse literally N, NW, W, SW, S, SE, E, and NE of him or the place he wants to go to go there. And corpses are quite literally more impenetrable then the edge of the map- he can teleport through the edge of the map, though not into it.

How can he go through it without first going into it?
If you knew, you should've told me that before I posted, because everything I do is based on what I've read here and in the strategy thread, and this IS a team effort. Not letting people know all the information available is not nice.

Would it help you to know that in engine terms, teleportation is infinate movement points and an ability to walk through walls and the borders of the map (but not corpses), but not end your turn or attack when in them? Because, really, I have no clue what you are talking about by now.

Originally Posted by Risp_old

Would it help you to know that in engine terms, teleportation is infinate movement points and an ability to walk through walls and the borders of the map (but not corpses), but not end your turn or attack when in them? Because, really, I have no clue what you are talking about by now.

Yes, that is what you should've told me here before I posted. >O

Well, at least we still have ninja speed which can let shuri do 10 damage for one turn :(.


..which wont help us win anyways.

Nobody be mean and correct Blacky, because he already knows everything you could possibly tell him about Ninja speed and Legacy. >O

Unless Solstice would cast a spell again, then only 5 damage.

Originally Posted by White Rabbit

Yes, that is what you should've told me here before I posted. >O

There is no practical difference between teleportation and infinate speed+walking through walls. I failed (and still fail) to see how knowing how it was done would change your analysis.

If I knew that, I would not have posted, and done something else, because as you can see, I did not expect Solstice to move out of that 'rectangle'.

Well you should, because you knew he could teleport.

Originally Posted by Risp_old

Well you should, because you knew he could teleport.

Nowhere was it explained that teleport works the way you described it though.

OH WELL.

Conquista: Attack Solstice.
Sam: Defend
Shuriken: Attack box.

Any objections? We're pretty much gonna die anyway.

HOPE IS NOT LOST YET!
...then again, there's really not much else we could do.. ....I guess it's alright.

Well, let Sam attack the box as well.

That'd make him an easy target for Solstice.




EDIT: Erm......................... say, if we killed Solstice now..... what would happen? The Ice Hydra is.. locked out of the battlefield.

Tell me one situation where being able to appear in any empty square that isn't surrounded on all 8 sides by corpses or people allows you to go different places from being able to walk through walls and the borders of the map.

In fact, let me look at earlier maps and show you...
Let us please draw our attention to post 1289. Look around Fooruman. The square SE of him has several corpseless squares next to it. Check. By what I told you, Solstice should be able to appear next to Fooruman.
Let's look at it the technical way. Solstice could go NW NE E E SE SW to get next to Fooruman. Check. By what I just told you, Solstice should be able to appear next to Fooruman.

Let us please draw our attention to Rad's most recent post. Let us say for some reason Solstice wants to go to the square SW of ICE HYDRA. There is a corpseless square N of there. Check. Now, engine-wise, Solstice could go NE NW W W SW S S. Check.

Oh, and I am aware there are a few situations where the two don't work exactly the same, but those involve large numbers of people just happening to die in a 4 corpse by 4 corpse hollow square. There aren't enough people in this battle for that to happen without the battle ending.

I'll let Radium answer that question.

Fine, let's have Sam defend.

Thank you, I don't want to leave Sam open now, we *might* need him. Conquista can take some pwnage, but Sam can't.

Risp is overcomplicating it. Teleportation means you magically disappear and appear somewhere else and kill people. The fact that teleportation TECHNICALLY works by giving him infinite movement and the ability to go through walls/map sides is not important, since the fully-surrounded thing is likey to never happen and if it does he'll probably get clobbered anyway. Though personally I think "surrounded on all 8 sides by people" is fairly self-explanatory.

Conquista smashes her battleaxe through Perfect Solstice with the power of fear, fire, and ultimate evil! (4 damage)
Scholar Sam defends
Shuriken dramatically slices the box (5 damage)
Frosty thorns tear into Grandma Conquista's skin! (7 damage)
ICE HYDRA is sad

Conquista: attack Solstice
Shuri and Sam: Defend

Conquista smashes her battleaxe through Perfect Solstice with the power of fear, fire, and ultimate evil! (4 damage)
Shuriken defends
Scholar Sam defends
A guy in a flying sled crashes into Grandma Conquista, badly knocking our poor hero off of balance (1/2 defense, 3 damage)
Frosty thorns tear into Grandma Conquista's skin! (14 damage)
Grandma Conquista dies
ICE HYDRA defends

This game has made me hate Santa and Christmas trees.

Sam: E, E
Shuri: defend

EDIT: And Rad, we're gonna fight this one out 'til the last frosty thorn tears the last piece of flesh.

Can we technically win this, seeing as that last hydra is out of reach due to the large number of dead people/hydras?

If you control most the field and one or two enemies are packed away in a corner somewhere (like the Unfooruman battle) I'd count that as a victory.

Shuriken defends
Frosty thorns tear into Scholar Sam's skin! (7 damage)

Wow, I'm retarded. D=

Shuri: attack box
Sam: attack Solstice
Dev: pray

Shuriken dramatically slices the box (5 damage)
Sam kicks Perfect Solstice. (2 damage)
Frosty thorns tear into Scholar Sam's skin! (7 damage)
ICE HYDRA provides encouragement

Shuri: Attack Dev Statue
Sam: Attack Perfect Solstice (KICKWITHBOTHFEET)

Shuriken slices at the Dev Statue
Sam kicks Perfect Solstice... WITH BOTH FEET! (2 damage)
Frosty thorns tear into Scholar Sam's skin! (7 damage)
Scholar Sam dies

Shuri: Defend.

I'll let the solstice destroy the box :(

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