I have come to the conclusion that both of these clan groups only create problems and possibly Chaos. I have also found that they have almost no effect watsoever. thus, i have decided to take action on this matter. Since i have rank of Vice President, and I am the Diplomatic Advisor of A$, i, when i get ryu's permission, will have A$ leave GoC. Of course, the conditions are, is that CTU will also disolve itself. When they agree to that, i would believe that all the members of the GoC would also agree to disolve GoC. Thus, many problems would be solved with these 2 rather useless clan groups. I am beeseeching that all clan leaders/diplomatic advisors from both GoC and CTU agree to this, so that this, "feud", as u could say, will be over with.



Signed:

BæÅüMÃ(-)Ñ

Vice President

Diplomatic Advisor

A$ Clan

I came to the conclusion that you are pretty much right.



And if Ryu leaves GoC. GoC probably will be dead then because he started it and none of the other leaders really care (okay they do, but they wouldn't really mind if they lost it).

Actually..



I came to all those conclusions.



Thnx



(btw this couldve also be done in that topic i posted, sorry i just hate it when people are saying that a thing you have started was their idea)

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Here to serve he who brings the light,

and born out of she who brings darkness..



he is the Slayer,



From the book of time.

(it twas ur idea, i just wanted to make it more official cause i'm a Clan Vice Pres/Diplomatic Advisor)

erm... most credit goes to slayer's earlier post

I agree, as a co-leader of DL. I would like EvilMike to agree also before DL fully accepts.

Ice M A N , how does EM feel about this?

I'm just wondering. Why did we ever join this anyway if you now come say



Noew I dont like I waant tooo leeave it !1@!1!!!



I think it's pretty weird uh.

You actully already answered you`r Question in Slayer Her Topic

im a he

What! THAT'S WHAT RN WAS FOR. AND ONLY NOW YOU RELIZE WE WERE RIGHT? I vote for it, as long as the clans themselves don't die.

What has RN to do with this?

i never agreed to join GoC, as i recall. Ryu wanted it because of the newly developed CTU. Like i said, i would agree to disolving it as long as they agree to disolve CTU. then, this matter will be over. CTU needs to be disvolved also because if not, there will be a want by some people to ressurect GoC. So, it will not be disolved unless CTU agrees to be disolved.

If CTU disintegrates, there will be very few clans left from it... CC and TEC, an perhaps a few others, I'm not too up to date on the politics. The reason for this is that most of the CTUers are CCers, and so you may have a lot of very small (2-3 person) clans...



Why do I care anyway?

Beauman is pretty much right, i didn't start GoC to make myself powerfull as some ppl say, but to try to make jazz more interesting, i was wrong, i accept that, Clan groups only separate clans and ppl so i don't object for GoC disolving but CTU should disolve too, thats what i think

Well, I think it's right too, cause CTU VS GoC is destroying JJ2, cause they are against eachother.

Beauman is pretty much right, i didn't start GoC to make myself powerfull as some ppl say, but to try to make jazz more interesting, i was wrong, i accept that, Clan groups only separate clans and ppl so i don't object for GoC disolving but CTU should disolve too, thats what i think.



Rýû

It takes 2 man to change war into peace...



wow, i wish it was all this easy in the real world to..



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Here to serve he who brings the light,

and born out of she who brings darkness..



he is the Slayer,



From the book of time.

today i talked to e-man cc, he wants ctu to stop to as much as the rest of us..its a matter of time before this whole war thingy is over with.



Thnx for the support

erm... fat chance pizza :P i could go on explaining everything, but... i don't feel like explaining that nor getting into political arguments (even political arguments are interesting). so, let's just say that where theres people, there is clans, in the gaming world, that is...

So, finally the time has come. If you really want to stop CTU and GoC then you musn´t ask the CTU members, but the CTU leaders, and maybe co-leaders (Super, Cooler, Rock, Unknown, Flame, Ice, Dragoon, etc.). That makes sense.



However, I don´t get what SlaYer has to do with CTU? You aren´t even in our clangroup. CTU didn´t bring destruction to JJ2, more likely, it were some of the people outside CTU who had a complete wrong vision about it and thought all problems would be solved by making a new clangroup.



Still, your plan isn´t completely wrong...

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On , Bôlt TÈC wrote:

So, finally the time has come. If you really want to stop CTU and GoC then you musn´t ask the CTU members, but the CTU leaders, and maybe co-leaders (Super, Cooler, Rock, Unknown, Flame, Ice, Dragoon, etc.). That makes sense.



However, I don´t get what SlaYer has to do with CTU? You aren´t even in our clangroup. CTU didn´t bring destruction to JJ2, more likely, it were some of the people outside CTU who had a complete wrong vision about it and thought all problems would be solved by making a new clangroup.



Still, your plan isn´t completely wrong...

thats kinda true

'The solution to a problem often same new ones.'

im not in the goc either and still i think this is wrong.

On , Bôlt TÈC wrote:

and maybe co-leaders (Super, Cooler, Rock, Unknown, Flame, Ice, Dragoon, etc.).

See, this is why people should stop calling me Unknown.

no, no... see, how thier deal worx is... those are like different elements, so thus, they are not names, only surnames or titles. so really, we can still call u unknown

Hmmmmm... Maybe that merge meant I was in GoC. I'm glad it's over.

Okay, its not like my opinion matters here because it's kinda voided by shadows ;P hehz But I think GoC and CTU should be dissolved...



`Goldbones[GpW], eViL Gameleader for GpWs on jj2 ;P

On , GoldBones wrote:

Okay, its not like my opinion matters here because it's kinda voided by shadows ;P hehz But I think GoC and CTU should be dissolved...



`Goldbones[GpW], eViL Gameleader for GpWs on jj2 ;P

Why Should CTU be Disssolved?

GoC Started this.

There both stupid... Either way... the main thing I'm looking for to get disolved is GoC because GpW's in it ;P I could really care less about CTU

Clans are clans, and what meaning has a gathering after all



Clanleagues can solve many problems

I think GoC is pretty much gone anyways, DL, A$, and Hybrids quit, i suppose EM did too so...

Make clanleagues like:



JJ2CL

SC2001

why make clanleauges?

why want to be the best?

Arent we here for fun?

Isnt something like saying "Why would we stop, they started it" really childish?

Why not both stop, shake hands and fight like brothers.

Ctu should stop, Goc should stop, no matter who started it.

Clanleagues are just like basketballleagues:



-Planned games

-Prizes (honour award)

-Signing up and stuff



Like UT and Worms, leagues make the games more exciting

It doesn't have to negative 'fighting'.

Like Slay said; why not shake hands and say its all over

that is wat is currently in the process, and that is wat will happen if the rest of the final CTU clans will decide to disolve. of course, most CTU members as far as i know don't post on the JCF :P and for some odd reason, Cracco won't post on the JCF *cough*.

so... that's that.

Does everybody think I like being ignored?Geez...

GenEx, i said MOST, repeat, MOST CTU members don't post on here. there was no reference to u

I don´t really care but i found that CTU a big joke and was really killing the clan feeling here. GoC was build just for fun so when this is gone i dont think its really a big bummer for me! =)