Earlier in the year, many reviews of SP packs claimed that storylines involving Devan wanting to take over Carrotus were bad. Meanwhile, an SP pack that did not have Devan as the villain got praise for this, when really if you switched the villain with Devan, the Pack's storyline would not have changed much.

I was angered by this, and concocted a storyline that involved Devan taking over Carrotus, but was much more complex than just Devan merely being bad and the rabbits have to stop him.

The story's premise was this: Tired of being cajoled by the Queen of Carrotus for not having a "Real job", Jazz seeks to find work at some Doctor's office. The Office is a trap devised by Devan, who switches his brain (and essentially, bodies) with Jazz's. Using Jazz's body, Devan goes to Carrotus Castle causing Mayhem and freeing captured goons.

While I was able to solve the problem of playing as Devan, I could never get the other concepts down.
While Causing Mayhem concept could be done by rube goldberg-esque puzzles (something I'm not exactly adept at), the saving goons aspect is something I could never find a way to implement without it being useless or too gimmicky for it's own good. That was a bad thing since one of the first levels was centered around the entire concept of freeing goons.

Anyways, thanks to the new poll the pack idea came back into my head, and I'd like to ask how you would work the "Freeing goons" idea.

EDIT- Sonyk, do you still have the old Intro Cutscene I made a long time ago?

Trigger zone'd.

Maybe with a patched anims.j2a? Not ideal, of course, but you could switch Eva's and Norm Turtle's sprites or something.

No.

I feel like deleting that.

explain yourself already, (-)

It would severely mess up any level that tried to use either event, and I think it would be illegal.

Originally Posted by minmay

It would severely mess up any level that tried to use either event

Ever heard of backups?

It's common sense to back up anims.j2a if you're downloading a patched one and it doesn't quite work.

We need some way to tell JJ2 to load specific anims.j2a files upon startup. Like a launcher that would tell JJ2 to use a specific file as its anims.j2a file for that session.

I suppose you could use a tileset with enemy sprites as tiles.

None of the ideas actually come up with concepts that create actual gameplay.
Using tiles causes the same problem as using actual events- What the hell do I do with them now that the player has freed them?

The castle should be guarded by rabbits, so some SCE turrets can take care of them...

That still doesn't help at all. Whats the point of freeing the goons if an NPC kills it right after?

Originally Posted by minmay

It would severely mess up any level that tried to use either event, and I think it would be illegal.

Levelmaking is aswell though, I heard

Bleh, Just put the Goons in a cage of sorts. DevanJazz stomps on a crate. And they all fall down a nice little pit to thier freedom. (BURROW UNDERGROUND BOYS!)

As far as enemies, The Dogs would work as guard dogs. Helmuts as guards. Bees are also a nice choce. Possibly crabs? A harder Queen Boss at the end or Say...JazzDevan makes a robot. Did somebody say Bubba? Anyways, not every enemy is a Devan goon. Or at least, they don't have to be in your story.

Originally Posted by n00b

That still doesn't help at all. Whats the point of freeing the goons if an NPC kills it right after?

Who says that they need to be killed right after they're released? Some long corridors with SCE mines lying at the entrance could solve it, as long as the player is distracted long enough, making it believe the baddies ran out of the castle.

Originally Posted by Xobim

Who says that they need to be killed right after they're released? Some long corridors with SCE mines lying at the entrance could solve it, as long as the player is distracted long enough, making it believe the baddies ran out of the castle.

Actually today at school I thought of a lemmings esque scenario using the SCEs

Can you explain that a bit more, I'm not 100% sure what you're meaning.