I was going thru some pre-release screenshots of Jazz, and found this.

So, you used to be able to use ambient lighting under water, but now for some reason you can't?

Then there's also the fact that he has mor than 99 seekers.

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And you could apparently get above 99 of one kind of ammo without updating them.

I would of liked jj2 much more if they kept it in >(

The 99 ammo cap is there because if you can get more than that you will basically have near unlimited ammuniton. It would be way too easy to have like 400 seekers.

As for the water, I have no freaking idea.

If you look closly at the screen shot you can see that it lacks the strange foreground waviness. That waviness must be a psuedo Ambient lighting affect, and therefore overides the lighting. Only a theory though.

I also notice that the fish is miraculously underground.

~ Traft

Originally Posted by Infinite Spaz

If you look closly at the screen shot you can see that it lacks the strange foreground waviness. That waviness must be a psuedo Ambient lighting affect, and therefore overides the lighting. Only a theory though.

The waves are there, look at the right side of the shipwreck.

Originally Posted by Radium

The waves are there, look at the right side of the shipwreck.

Yeah, but the waves in the new version also have lighting effects...

Originally Posted by Piccolo

Yeah, but the waves in the new version also have lighting effects...

Ah, I get it now. Makes sense.

Ambient lighting underwater probably made even fast computers of that day go extremely slow - maybe 10, 20, or 30 FPS at the most, which sucks for a fast paced game like JJ2. CliffyB is too lazy to make a patch that features things that were taken out due to stuff like this. Having more than 100 ammo is a bug, and it is present in v1.21. I have that on my laptop, and sometimes when you get a powerup, specifically kicking it, you exceed 100, but it goes right back down after firing a bit. I think that kicking and uppercutting powerups is a bug, and I will make a topic about it soon.

It's still present. If you shoot a powerup, you can have >100 until you run over another of that type of ammo.

Originally Posted by mikeejimbo

It's still present. If you shoot a powerup, you can have >100 until you run over another of that type of ammo.

Please explain...I know pre-1.23 this was a common bug. Ha...we used to take advantage of it all the time in DW with that seeker powerup. Good times.

As for the lighting, I don't know.

The fish being on a masked part isn't anything new either.

And labrabkid doesn't make any sense.

Err... maybe it was in 1.21....

I managed to get 18630 or something poweredup toasters. I forgot if it was in TSF or 1.23, but it is as easy as placing a line of toaster powerups with generator set on 1 and then constantly shooting it. When you kick/buttstomp the powerup your ammo goes back to 99 though.

Fish usually go through walls underwater, Trafton :P

Heh, I once made a level with bouncy-pups spawning, and I let my PC run while having a pencil on my space key. I had 50k ammo or so :P
As for the lighting: though there are waves, there aren't as many as in the current version I think, so maybe the lightning was possible then, and, lightning combined with more waves, it's probably the problem with what LRK said: PCs of those days.

103 seekers? That must be great. Too bad they took that off. The things I prefered in JJ1 were unlimited ammo and secret levels.

Originally Posted by Hardtana

The things I prefered in JJ1 were unlimited ammo and secret levels.

You didn't have unlimited ammo, did you? I thought that the maximum was 999.

Oops...I told myself that I should not be online at 2 AM...I meant to say "less limited"

Originally Posted by Hardtana

103 seekers? That must be great. Too bad they took that off. The things I prefered in JJ1 were unlimited ammo and secret levels.

that thread revive suxed >(